Re: [OT] Canada elects ANOTHER Liberal government

On 2025-04-30 6:28 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

On Apr 28, 2025 at 7:37:23 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
 

At least two networks have declared the Liberals to have won the federal
election. It's not clear yet if they'll get a majority yet; we'll have a
much better idea about that tomorrow (or in the wee hours tonight if you
want to stay up that long).

 Yep. Your voters seem to share the same bizarre Helsinki Syndrome that
California voters exhibit, where they reward their abusers with re-election.
 Even after the liberal government froze the bank accounts of (actually)
peaceful protesters, arrested journalists in the streets, trampled old ladies
with horses, disarmed the entire population, effectively banned independent
journalists from posting their content on social media platforms, started
pushing for more and more citizens to kill themselves as a solution to life's
normal problems, firmly (and openly) established a 2-tier legal system where
native Canadians can be arrested and jailed for things that migrants (both
legal and illegal) are allowed to say and do with impunity, and declared
martial law over a bunch of truckers whose sole offense was that they didn't
want to be forced to take an experimental medical treatment...
 ...Canadidians saw all of those things and said, "Yep, give us more of that,
plus a shit-ton more taxes so the weather won't change."

Not *everything* you've said so far is 100% correct - for example, 95% of the truckers had been vaccinated but still launched the protest on the grounds of principle - but that's a nitpick: the gist of what you've said is very largely correct.

 As John Carter said in his election post-mortem:

Who is John Carter? I've never heard of a pundit by that name, just a character in Edgar Rice Burroughs and ER.

       Have you ever noticed how election results are regularly broken
      down geographically as well as by demographic categories of age,
      sex, and-- depending on the country-- race, yet we almost never
      see the results separated out based on tax-payer vs tax-eater status?
       It is absolutely no surprise that Ottawa voted solidly for the Liberal
      Party, whose base consists of three primary groups: migrants, public
      sector employees, and baby boomers, all of whom are regime client
      groups, and all of whom are tightly packed into the nation's capital.
       Perhaps it's that it's tax season and I'm in a grumpy mood because I
      just got the bad news, but I can't help but wonder about how electoral
      politics would change if taxpayers alone were allowed to vote.
 Here's a chart that shows the most important factors upon which Canadidians
base their vote, broken out by age.
 https://ibb.co/9m943tjh
 Notice how for people under 44, reducing the cost of living is their top
consideration when deciding to cast their vote. But for those 60 and over,
their *top* issue facing their country is "dealing with Donald Trump".
 In other words, Canadidian seniors are, by and large, not even pretending to
be interested in the affairs and issues facing their own country. They don't
seem to be concerned about the fact that young people are overdosing in
ever-increasing rates or that a not insignificant number of them are well into
their 30s, crammed into tiny apartments, shared with roommates just to make
ends meet.
 What they care about instead is "dealing with Donald Trump", an elected
official in a different country who has not caused a single ounce of the
misery that Canadia has been enduring for the last decade or more. And what do
they mean by "dealing with him"? Are they trying to elect globalists that will
send equally mean tweets back at Trump when he launches his 3AM toilet
missives?

Carney and the Liberals targeted seniors hard. They even planted questions at Trump's press conferences to make Trump reassert his 51st state rhetoric whenever the Conservatives started to close the gap just to remind seniors - who are famous for voting much more than young people in this country - about the threat from Trump.

 It's a sobering realization, but it's true: Countries like the UK, Australia,
and Canadia, who have been traditionally allied with us through our shared
culture and values are moving farther and farther away from that benchmark
with us. No longer do any of these countries have a functioning conservative
movement.
 

Actually, the Conservative Party upped its number of seats substantially in this election by roughly 20 seats and grew substantially in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area, the suburbs and cities on all sides of Toronto except the south, which is Lake Ontario). But it wasn't quite enough to catch up with the Liberals.
The Liberals benefited heavily by the collapse of the NDP (in theory, farther left that the Liberals but today's Liberals are so "progressive" it's almost impossible to detect a difference), which went from 23 seats down to 7. The NDP actually lost official party status, which means they lose the extra "support" that "official" parties get. I believe that means they've lost dedicated staff supported by the taxpayers. The Bloc Quebecois also lost about 10 of its 33 seats. A lot of those lost seats went to the Liberals because the threat from Trump was seen as so existential that people felt they had to go with the Liberals rather than the smaller parties.

With every election that takes place in Canadia and every humiliating hearing
on the dangers of white supremacy that Parliament entertains while muezzins
literally wail away on loudspeakers right across the street and traffic is
brought to gridlock five times a day by thousands of Muslims kneeling in
prayer in the middle of the road, the truth becomes more clear by the day and
it's time to admit it: the future of conservatism and thus of Western
civilization is in our hands and, increasingly, our hands alone.
 

I'm not aware of Muslims blocking the streets to pray although I know that we had issues with school bus drivers pausing in the middle of their runs to leave the bus and pray at the side of the road, which may have obstructed traffic too. But I haven't been in Ottawa in a long time so you may be right about roads getting blocked and muezzins doing their thing opposite Parliament. That wasn't happening 20 years ago when I was last in Ottawa but we've brought in a lot of Muslims since then and many of them wound up in Ottawa.
But the broader point is certainly valid. The West NEEDS conservatives (and Conservatives) to fix this. The "progressives" certainly aren't going to do it.
You have no idea how discouraged many of us are over the election result. Any number of people have said they're going to look for another country to live in because this country is becoming intolerable and getting worse by the day. People in the West, especially Alberta and Saskatchewan are probably just days from launching a formal movement to separate from Canada entirely - and I don't blame them. I may just move out West to join them if they get something organized.
You may find Jordan Peterson's reaction to the election - and the comments beneath it - illuminating:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I3HSr20Y0o [12 minutes]
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Rhino