Re: Nazi White Supremacist Trump Seizes On Videos Of A Fringe South African Politician As Evidence Of Threats To White Farmers

On 2025-05-22 1:32 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On May 22, 2025 at 6:32:48 AM PDT, "Marmalade King" <x@y.com> wrote:

 

Evan Vucci / The Associated Press
By Nicholas Riccardi, Ali Swenson And Mogomotsi Magome The Associated Press

 

NEW YORK (AP) President Donald Trump confronted South African President
Cyril Ramaphosa on Wednesday with claims that white farmers are being
targeted and killed in the country.

 

Trumps main evidence, compiled in a video shown during their Oval Office
meeting: Speeches by a politician who was kicked out of Ramaphosas party,
is not part of the coalition that governs the country and whose own
political movement garnered less than 10% of the vote in last years
elections.

 

President Donald Trump and South Africa's president exchanged tense words
in the Oval Office Wednedsay over Trump's baseless claims of the systematic
killing of white farmers. At one point Trump showed a video of white
crosses, which he said memorialized white farmers who were killed.

 

The Trump administration has used the rhetoric of a fringe politician and
South Africas endemic violence as justification for allowing white South
Africans to apply to become refugees in the United States

 

Fifty-nine people. The same people who had no problem with Biden throwing open
the border and allowing 15 *million* to flood into the country unchecked and
unvetted, breaking the budgets of the major cities, are suddenly running for
the fainting couch over 59 people for no other reason than that they're
white.

 It doesn't matter if Trump let them in. I am in favor of immigration,
and deporting immigrants convicted of felonies.
 Trump can and should be criticized for claiming they were refugees
lacking evidence of ethnic cleansing or whatever. The crosses weren't a
burial site but a makeshift memorial to a local family that had been
killed in a disaster, not ethnic cleansing,
 He's doing it as a favor to Elon Musk.

Do you know that for a fact or are you just assuming because Musk was born in South Africa and obviously has Trump's ear on some matters?

 Trump ended the special status for Venezuelans. Why the fuck is he
sending people back who were forced to leave, REJECTING communism? THey
couldn't be said to be coming to America to change our society. They
would have thrived here. Many of them would have met refugee status
better than these farmers.
 

I can't help but agree with you on that. The Venezuelans are at risk if they go home. (The Haitians are too.) I don't know if the Venezuelans will get a chance to skedaddle over the border into adjacent countries like Columbia like so many of their compatriots or if Madura will arrest them when they land and put them straight into jail.

It's fair for you to call out hypocrisy in others, but you might have
also called out Trump's hypocrisy with regard to the Venesualens,
 

Freedom Fighters to argue that South Africa is engaged in genocide against
white farmers, a contention that seemed to baffle Malemas main political
rival, Ramaphosa, during his Oval Office visit. Ramaphosa repeatedly
stressed that EFF is a small minority party.

 

That doesn't mean the murders and rapes and arsons and theft aren't
happening.

 Where are the reports? It's just hand waiving right now.

Challenge accepted (even though it wasn't me challenged ;-)
Take a look at this for starters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgb3sn4-bhw [6 minutes]
Notice the date on the video: 6 years ago. That law allowing uncompensated expropriation is NOT new.
And here's one of the South African delegation telling it like it is now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REI3lLU0FPs [1 minute]
Here's another older video in which a woman whose husband was murdered before her eyes describes what happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzu-JzApLc8 [4 minutes]
I think you will also find this video interesting. It is an interview of a professor describing the workings of the expropriate act and when compensation is (and isn't) required. It does NOT address the crimes against farmers cited in the other videos but I think it will appeal to your interest in law:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8lfg3F2YxM [11 minutes]
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Rhino