Re: [OT] Documentary on South African farm murders

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

Sat, 24 May 2025 23:28:36 -0400, Rhino <no_offline_contat@example.com>:

On 2025-05-24 10:22 PM, moviePig wrote:

On 5/24/2025 9:57 PM, Rhino wrote:

I just watched a very powerful documentary about the South African
farm murders that have aroused a flurry of controversy in the legacy
media in the US lately. Frankly, I'm surprised YouTube allowed it,
knowing how squeamish they are about violence. You are warned that
there will be horrific details about what criminals have done to
whites AND blacks in these farm attacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjBu6VZWE7k [68 minutes]

This is not a new documentary - it was made in 2018 - but it got the
journalist in serious trouble with the South African authorities when
she tried to leave, as she recounts in the closing minutes of the film.

This film will go a long way to demonstrating that this is not a new
problem: farmers and their employees have been getting tortured,
murdered, raped and killed for years now. It just hasn't crossed the
radar of most Westerners because our media follow other stories. (I
also suspect they secretly wanted the world to believe that South
Africans all lived happily ever after when apartheid ended and didn't
want to undermine that narrative.)

Has the end of a civil strife ever precipitated a 'happily ever after'?

Philosophical posturing aside, how many stories have YOU heard in our
legacy media about South Africa since apartheid ended? Why do you
suppose that is?

Legacy media? Not many because it's not a concern to the daily lives
of their viewers and that is all that really matters to them. I did
know about as it was brought up over the years in other media like on
the social platforms. Not that it ever got enough attention to make a
difference but it wasn't unmentioned.

BBC would have reported on South Africa and Reuters would have
distributed stories from South Africa. If someone in America were
looking for the stories, they could have found them easily enough, but
no, they wouldn't have been in American newspapers on a regular basis.
That was true under apartheid and post-apartheid.

moviePig is being an ass as per usual. The end of apartheid was not the
end of civil strife. There's the obvious tribal conflict that almost no
one discusses between ANC leadership, who are not Zulu, and Zulu tribal
members. There's the obvious fact that rural blacks, largely confined by
apartheid laws to the overpopulated townships (overpopulated compared to
available resources), were not immediately lifted out of poverty by the
end of apartheid and government restrictions on land ownership and where
they could live.

In general, ANC was greatly influenced by Communism. No one at all
should be shocked that under their leadership of the government, the
economy got worse, not better. If sunsetting apartheid laws allowed more
people to participate in the economy, that should have made the economy
better, right?

No. Civil strife did not end, but the criminal attacks on families in
rural agriculture, one of the former bright spots in the South African
economy, certainly increased since the end of apartheid. So that's all
new civil strife.