Re: International law support for Israel's boundaries

On 2025-06-01 8:10 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

2025-06-01 5:08 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

 

To follow on with a related point, quite a number of countries recognize
a state called Palestine, although mostly not the main Western states.
(That may be on the verge of changing with threats by countries like the
UK and Canada since Oct 7 to recognize Palestine.) But what would the
boundaries of that Palestine be? Would it be Gaza alone? Gaza plus the
West Bank as currently delimited by Israel? Or the Palestine that
Palestinians themselves actually want, best described as "from the river
to the sea" or "the one state solution" which envisions the Jews all
being dead or deported?

 

Recognizing a state within another state isn't allowed and would put
them in a technical state of war with Israel.

 

By "them" do you mean the countries that recognize Palestine, of which
there are already many? Or the new "state" of Palestine?

 If Palestine is recognized as a state as opposed to the nonstate status
it has currently, and it is recognized to have definite boundaries
including a portion or all of Jerusalem, then that nation has put itself
into a technical state of war with Israel.
 It's forbidden to recognize a new state including some or all of the
territory of an existing state in international law. That's literally a
state of war.

An interesting conundrum then for Western countries thinking about recognizing Palestine: if your country recognizes Palestine, you automatically create a state of war between Palestine and Israel. Given that your country ostensibly recognized Palestine in the interests of "peace" (for some definition of peace), you're actually accomplishing the opposite.
Of course the idea that Britain or France or Canada recognizing Palestine will somehow bring about peace is laughable at the present time anyway. It *might* be possible in a generation or two if Palestinian children are taught to get along with their neighbours for several decades but it is a non-starter now when the main driver of Palestinian life is hatred and the desire to kill or deport all the Jews from "their" land.
I doubt the Western countries that are talking about recognizing Palestine actually want peace though, at least not peace for Israel. They are pandering to their Arab voters, virtue-signalling to their leftist peers, and indulging in their governing party's own anti-Semitism by sticking it to the Jews. I expect some even hope for regime change so that the defiant Netanyahu can be driven from office.
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Rhino