Re: Fatal incident in Paris

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:58:37 +0200, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:

Am 21.10.2024 um 13:05 schrieb John B.:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 12:13:51 +0200, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
 

Am 20.10.2024 um 16:06 schrieb AMuzi:

On 10/19/2024 7:33 PM, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:57:17 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20241019-suv-driver-charged-with-murder-
for-running-over-cyclist-in-paris

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Note the difference. In France the perpetrator is held in jail until
his trial while, as Mr. Muzi has previously posted, criminals in the
U.S. are allowed to run free and commit even more crimes while
awaiting trial.

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Well, yes that does happen with disturbing frequency but with huge local
variance.

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Let's put things into a perspective:
In each of the legislations mentioned, it is possible to hold people in
jail until the trial date if necessary (risk of interfering in Police
investigations, risk of repeat offence, risk of absconding where bail
seems insufficient).
In each of the legislations, it is possible to release people before
trial if it is not necessary to jail them.
With overloaded courts and often several years of waiting for a trial,
it would be plain inappropriate to jail people for crimes with a maximum
sentence of a few months.

 
In a number of posts made by Mr. Andrew the guilty party committed a
several further crimes while free awaiting trial for the first crime.
 
Re overloaded courts, etc. What does a company do when the demand for
their product becomes much greater then they are able to supply with
their current facilities and equipment.?

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They aim to expand facilities but only if they have enough capital to
allow them doing it (polititians usually deny the courts sufficient
money for expansion).
Short-term they aim to raise prices to supress demand and raise capital
(defendants in criminal courts do not pay to use the court services).
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What would you suggest courts do in such a situation?  The only way out
is to prioritize cases and to drop the least importan cases.  Is a
shop-lifter who stole $100 more or less important than a husband to shot
dead his wife seeing her in the arms of somebody else?
The shop-lifter has a high change of re-offending but murder is
significantly more severe than shop-lifting.
If you dislike people getting off scott-free, when was the last time you
voted for a significant tax raise to bolster the court system?

Well, firstly, it isn't the count as some sort of individual entity as
courts are part of the government system whether federal, state or
lower.

As for shortage of money? Well there are all sort of things that CAN
be done. Thailand, for example has no unemployment system - you don't
work, you don't eat. And in conjunction they do not allow foreigners
to work in the country, to take work for citizens and thus no
unemployment and the state makes no unemployment payments.

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Cheers,

John B.