Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general

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Sujet : Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 17. Jun 2025, 22:42:04
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On 6/17/2025 12:44 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 11:17:12 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 
Unlike some here, I think it's nonsense to say that nothing is
quantifiable, that _everything_ is subjective. That attitude is just a
lazy thinker's way of pretending one's uninformed opinion is always right.
 
I don't buy that attitude - maybe in part because in my profession, I
was paid to (among many other things) correct other's mistakes. My
education taught me to pay attention to data, and I taught that to others.
 Sure you paid attention to the nonsense data that said that having a
gun in your house made it more likely to get shot.
<https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/full/10.7326/M21-3762>
"Overall rates of homicide were more than twice as high among cohabitants of handgun owners than among cohabitants of nonowners (adjusted hazard ratio, 2.33 [95% CI, 1.78 to 3.05]). These elevated rates were driven largely by higher rates of homicide by firearm (adjusted hazard ratio, 2.83 [CI, 2.05 to 3.91]). Among homicides occurring at home, cohabitants of owners had sevenfold higher rates of being fatally shot by a spouse or intimate partner (adjusted hazard ratio, 7.16 [CI, 4.04 to 12.69]); 84% of these victims were female."
<https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9715182/>
"For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides.
"Conclusions: Guns kept in homes are more likely to be involved in a fatal or nonfatal accidental shooting, criminal assault, or suicide attempt than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense."
Etc.

Krygowski is totally obsessed with me.
:-)  HA! _That_ got an outright laugh!
--
- Frank Krygowski

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15 Jun 25 +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general21Jeff Liebermann
15 Jun 25 i+- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
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18 Jun 25 i   +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general6Catrike Ryder
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19 Jun 25 i   i +- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Frank Krygowski
19 Jun 25 i   i `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Catrike Ryder
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16 Jun 25   i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2Frank Krygowski
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16 Jun 25   `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general68AMuzi
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16 Jun 25      +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general50Frank Krygowski
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