Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.

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De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 18. Jul 2025, 03:06:15
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On 7/17/2025 5:50 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 20:04:43 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
<beej@beej.us> wrote:
>
In article <1vki7k10egcrhostdbs6sp6ml5pdri0r93@4ax.com>,
Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Gas and oil subsidies are for fuel sources. EV subsidies are to
manipulate consumer purchases.
>
I agree insofar as I agree that consumers don't purchase gas and oil.
>
Gas and oil are important for many more things that automobiles.
Batteries for trucks, trains, ships, and airplanes are only dreams.
 Um there absolutely are battery powered trains, as uk still has number of
non electrified railway lines, at least one local ish that they are
currently trying out. It plugs in and fast charges at either end of the
line.
 They are a bit of niche product ie useful for lines that for whatever
reason haven’t been electrified and aren’t really worth the investment to
do so, but want a better train, as ever electric motors have the grunt aka
torque.
 Not seen any properly large trucks/lorries, considering the drivers can
only drive for X hours the range of rather slower recharge is less of
problem than one might expect.
 Ships and particularly commercial vessels are fairly dirty to put it
mildly, though the problems are probably more political than technical,
might even be something that Hydrogen could do!
 Planes power to weight is going to be a technical challenge, though I’ve
not heard of anything bar small helicopter type of things and very much
prototypes and seeing what the technology can do.
 
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--
C'est bon
Soloman
>
 Roger Merriman
 
UK train with battery power is a one-off:
https://www.judicialwatch.org/names-cleaned-from-voter-rolls/
Electric trains began with subways and were technologically advanced before the Great War.  Milwaukee Road built their own electric system, Milwaukee to Seattle, around 1910. That included building dams with dynamos and generating stations on a 2500 mile route and it was profitable until after WWII.
Postwar, the wonderfully efficient diesel-electric format killed off everything else beyond electric urban loop systems. The few remaining steam trains are curiosities, not actual commercially viable transport.
https://railway-news.com/innotrans-2024-stadler-presents-class-99-locomotive-for-uk-market/
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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16 Jul 25 * General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.54Catrike Ryder
16 Jul 25 +* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.49Roger Merriman
16 Jul 25 i`* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.48Catrike Ryder
16 Jul 25 i `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.47AMuzi
16 Jul 25 i  `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.46Catrike Ryder
16 Jul 25 i   `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.45Beej Jorgensen
17 Jul 25 i    `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.44Catrike Ryder
17 Jul 25 i     +* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.42Roger Merriman
17 Jul 25 i     i+* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.37Catrike Ryder
17 Jul 25 i     ii`* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.36Roger Merriman
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17 Jul 25 i     ii `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.32Catrike Ryder
17 Jul 25 i     ii  +* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.30Beej Jorgensen
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18 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i  +- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Roger Merriman
18 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i  `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.5Beej Jorgensen
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19 Jul 25 i     ii  i   `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2zen cycle
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17 Jul 25 i     i `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.3Roger Merriman
18 Jul 25 i     i  `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2AMuzi
18 Jul 25 i     i   `- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Roger Merriman
17 Jul 25 i     `- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Beej Jorgensen
16 Jul 25 `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.4Beej Jorgensen
17 Jul 25  `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.3Catrike Ryder
17 Jul 25   `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2AMuzi
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