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On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 17:53:39 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Good links but I was specifically looking for something with a long time scale and the 100 year chart shows the nonsensical abandonment of hydropower well.
On 7/18/2025 5:20 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote:That's graph is from 2010 and a poor choice of data for US hydroIn article <105ca6p$1lci9$10@dont-email.me>,>
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:The few remaining steam trains are curiosities, not actual commercially>
viable transport.
I was lucky enough to ride commercial steam trains in India in the 80s.
They're long gone, I'm certain.
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But I was surprised at the extent of electrified rail in Norway when I
visited a couple years back--over half their rail is electrified and
takes you considerable distances, e.g. Bergen to Oslo to Trondheim.
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We have electric service here too beyond subway systems,
mostly interurban lines:
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https://www.chicagorailfan.com/interxma.html
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With Norway's hydropower resources, that makes sense.
Here in USA we rip out dams (sigh). Cry over pathetic chart
here:
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=2130
power. Methinks this is better.
<https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/supply>
It's CAISO (California Independent Service Operators) which covers 9
western states. More of the same:
<https://www.gridstatus.io/live/caiso>
The pie chart currently shows large hydro at 7.7% of the total and
small hydro at 1.1%. It used to be much higher. (Notice that small
hydro is considered renewable energy while large hydro is not).
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