Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.

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Sujet : Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 21. Jul 2025, 17:19:48
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On 7/21/2025 10:53 AM, Radey Shouman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> writes:
 
On 7/17/2025 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 20:04:43 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
<beej@beej.us> wrote:
>
In article <1vki7k10egcrhostdbs6sp6ml5pdri0r93@4ax.com>,
Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Gas and oil subsidies are for fuel sources. EV subsidies are to
manipulate consumer purchases.
>
I agree insofar as I agree that consumers don't purchase gas and oil.
Gas and oil are important for many more things that automobiles.
Batteries for trucks, trains, ships, and airplanes are only dreams.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
>
And ethylene for a gazillion polymer products and packages.
And asphalt, bunker fuel and solvents. And myriad other crude cracking
fractions.  Oh, plus helium (there's a shortage) from natural gas
production.
 Natural gas for ammonia production, meaning nitrate fertilizers and
feedstock for all sorts of amines.  Fossil fuel is used for almost all
cement production, used to build almost everything.  Coke from coal for
steel production.  It's possible to imagine replacing all of these with
something else, actually doing so will be very difficult.
 The supply of fossil fuels is certainly finite, and eventually all of
those replacements will have to be done or industrial civilization
abandoned.  Guessing when that will happen is a mug's game.
 
All the world's oil ran out in 2011. We have definitive proof of that on video:
https://religiopoliticaltalk.com/35-years-worth-of-oil-left-jimmy-carter-1976/
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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16 Jul 25 * General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.54Catrike Ryder
16 Jul 25 +* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.49Roger Merriman
16 Jul 25 i`* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.48Catrike Ryder
16 Jul 25 i `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.47AMuzi
16 Jul 25 i  `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.46Catrike Ryder
16 Jul 25 i   `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.45Beej Jorgensen
17 Jul 25 i    `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.44Catrike Ryder
17 Jul 25 i     +* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.42Roger Merriman
17 Jul 25 i     i+* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.37Catrike Ryder
17 Jul 25 i     ii`* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.36Roger Merriman
18 Jul 25 i     ii +* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2zen cycle
18 Jul 25 i     ii i`- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Shadow
17 Jul 25 i     ii +- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1AMuzi
17 Jul 25 i     ii `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.32Catrike Ryder
17 Jul 25 i     ii  +* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.30Beej Jorgensen
17 Jul 25 i     ii  i+- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1AMuzi
17 Jul 25 i     ii  i`* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.28Catrike Ryder
17 Jul 25 i     ii  i `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.27Beej Jorgensen
18 Jul 25 i     ii  i  +* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2AMuzi
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17 Jul 25 i     ii  i  +* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.20Catrike Ryder
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22 Jul13:52 i     ii  i  ii  +* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.3AMuzi
23 Jul12:15 i     ii  i  ii  i`* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2Catrike Ryder
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22 Jul22:00 i     ii  i  ii  `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2Radey Shouman
23 Jul10:22 i     ii  i  ii   `- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1zen cycle
17 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i`* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.9Roger Merriman
18 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i +- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Catrike Ryder
18 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.7AMuzi
18 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i  +- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Roger Merriman
18 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i  `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.5Beej Jorgensen
18 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i   `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.4AMuzi
19 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i    `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.3Jeff Liebermann
19 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i     `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2AMuzi
19 Jul 25 i     ii  i  i      `- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Jeff Liebermann
18 Jul 25 i     ii  i  `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.3Shadow
19 Jul 25 i     ii  i   `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2zen cycle
19 Jul 25 i     ii  i    `- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Catrike Ryder
17 Jul 25 i     ii  `- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Shadow
17 Jul 25 i     i`* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.4AMuzi
17 Jul 25 i     i `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.3Roger Merriman
18 Jul 25 i     i  `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2AMuzi
18 Jul 25 i     i   `- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Roger Merriman
17 Jul 25 i     `- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Beej Jorgensen
16 Jul 25 `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.4Beej Jorgensen
17 Jul 25  `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.3Catrike Ryder
17 Jul 25   `* Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.2AMuzi
17 Jul 25    `- Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.1Catrike Ryder

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