Re: Todays rant

On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 12:58:02 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 12/5/2024 11:27 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 12/5/2024 9:37 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 12/5/2024 10:03 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 12/5/2024 5:35 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Thu, 05 Dec 2024 16:36:56 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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On Thu, 05 Dec 2024 03:42:24 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Thu, 05 Dec 2024 10:18:01 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 10:09:39 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 21:45:52 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 08:50:21 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 18:56:41 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 04:05:42 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 23:45:12 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 12/3/2024 8:12 PM, John B. wrote:

On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 11:04:27 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 12/3/2024 6:22 AM, John B. wrote:

You might ant to look at https:// www.worldometers.info/
coronavirus/
it used numbers per population and is no longer updated.
Details on
site.
Example
World cases - 90,413 per 1 million
U.S.A. cases    - 333,985
World deaths - 889.4 per 1 million population
U.S.A. deaths - 3642

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Data means nothing to those whose world view is dominated
by their
political views.
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"That site could be biased!!! It's probably run by
Socialists!!!"
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"Statistics can show anything they want them to show!!!"
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"How do we know those were COVID deaths? Those Americans
could have died
of anything!!!  ... Oh, but the U.S. medical system is
_still_ the best
in the world!!!"

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And life expectance is number 48 (both sexes) in a list of
the world's
countries
   https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/ life-
expectancy/

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Our tricycle rider is going to get mad at you for giving
links he
doesn't like.

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No, this tricycle rider understands that there are many
reasons other
than health care for life expectancy to be lower in the USA,
drugs,
crime, poor eating, and other bad habits (getting fat) being
some of
them.
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USAians eat processed food with chemicals that color,
preserve, and
enhance taste are in a lot of the food on grocery shelves in
the USA,
but not in many other countries.  Hopefully, RFK jr is going
to work
on that.

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Err... you mean like putting salt on pork to preserve it?

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No, but they already limit the amount of ratshit in your
cheerioes, so
why not limit the amount of chemicals?

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I don't know about the breakfast cereal. I haven't eaten that
since I
was in my teens

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Same here. I've eat Quaker instant oatmeal most mornings. No
artificial crap. They now have one with less sugar, so I go with
that
one. Occasionally, I make omelets, and once or twice a week we
go out
for breakfast... where I usually, I get an omelet.  I like omelets.

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Try
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/chemical-found- in-
cheerios- quaker-oats-other-oat-based-foods-linked- potential-
health-issues-study
A pesticide linked to reproductive and developmental issues in
animals
was found in oat-based foods sold in the U.S., including under major
brand names like Cheerios and Quaker Oats.....

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..there are many such issues. In the cited case manufacturers claim
that their product meets government (EPA) requirements. I wouldn't
trust the EPA any more than I trust the people ( Environmental
Working
Group (EWG)) who did the study. The EWG recieves it funding from
organic food manufacturers, so I'm not inclined to trust them.

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Well,, as you don't trust this mob and you don't trust that mob, then
who do you trust? Some wild eyed bloke on the Internet?

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I trust the people I believe to be trustworthy. That would be some,
not all of my relatives, and some, not all of the people I know. I do
not trust the following blokes unless I know them and believe them to
be trustworthy; blokes on the internet, blokes who do studies, and
blokes in the government, or blokes who run for government positions.
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--
C'est bon
Soloman

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As Bobby Jindal put it 'When I got to Washington I was stunned by the
widespread corruption. I saw it as a cesspool. After three terms, it
started to look more like a hot tub, so I left.'
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[paraphrase: didn't find exact original]
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And that's a Congressman who at least has some accountability. 
What's it like for a guy writing FDA reports (often utter fiction)
and counting the days to early retirement when he can go work for the
guy who pushed the 'research'?

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IOW: "Nothing can be known. All is mystery. Ommmmmm..."
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Some of the oh-so-independent-minded folks posting here claim total
skepticism of anything emanating from the government, including all
scientific or economic data. But it seems to me that's often just a
way to maintain cherished beliefs despite all evidence.
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"COVID was no worse than a seasonal flu."
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"Sadaam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction ready to attack the U.S."
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"The stock market tanked during the Obama administration."
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"Nothing can make riding a bike among cars safe."
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Wait.  You're quoting official US Government positions to argue that
they are trustworthy? Really?

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No, I was quoting (or perhaps paraphrasing) opinions stated here that
are proven to be absolute nonsense.
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Those proofs make no difference to those who hold the opinions dearly.

I remember someone who insists that the fact that people who have guns
sometimes get shot mean that having a gun makes you more likely to get
shot.

--
C'est bon
Soloman