Re: Disc brake maintenance tips

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Sujet : Re: Disc brake maintenance tips
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 29. Jun 2024, 09:51:06
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On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 21:54:57 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 6/28/2024 4:17 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 6/27/2024 4:59 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>
Bikeability etc predates Forrester, and Vehicular cycling.
>
Which is essentially what I've said!
 
No your attempting to rewrite history, Bikeability and generally cycle
advice predates plus has continued on without either Forrester/Vehicular
cycling which are political movements or rather where.
>
<sigh> Again, Roger, Forester himself said the knowledge was always
there in Britain, where he learned it. But it was mostly absent in
America, a land where there were almost zero avid adult cyclists between
roughly 1920 and 1970.
>
He was essentially teaching British knowledge to ignorant Americans.

Nonsense. There were no bike lanes in the USA in that period, so
bicycling was done on streets and roads using common sense tactics
that Forester was simply repeating. Fortunately, his lobbying against
bicycle infrastructure was also a waste of time and effort. 

That being said, I, like others here, hate the stupid, little, narrow
bike lines on the far right sides of streets and roads. I prefer,
instead, a dedicated path physically removed from the vehicle lanes
and separated from them by curbs, and concrete or grass strips so the
vehicle trash doesn't end up in the path. Separating the bike path
from traffic with those stupid bend posts or a fence is ridiculous and
in my opinion, actually worse than paint.

Maybe put one on each side for the folks who are afraid to ride
against the traffic direction on the adjacent highway, but still
prefer not to ride in the vehicle lanes.

But really, having a side path on both sides is overkill. When riding
a sidepath, as I often do, I feel safer going against the flow of
traffic in the nearby traffic lane than I do when riding in the same
direction. Simply trusting that someone is not going to pull out in
front of me, regardless of whether or not I think they see me, is not
something that comes easily for me.

Having been hit from behind on several occasions while in a vehicle, I
prefer riding where almost all of the potential encounters with cars
and trucks happen in front of me where I can take defensive action
rather then trust them.

That effort was valuable. And the principles he taught are still
valuable for those of us who ride ordinary American roads.

Some people don't mind being told what to do. The rest of us just roll
our eyes and make our own decisions.

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