Re: Science of cycling still largely mysterious

On Wed, 21 May 2025 13:33:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 5/21/2025 5:10 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2025 00:09:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

On 5/20/2025 4:58 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Tue, 20 May 2025 16:43:34 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 5/20/2025 1:38 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Tue, 20 May 2025 11:44:29 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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"Science of cycling still largely mysterious"
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This article from 2016 recently popped up again:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/science-of-cycling-still-mysterious-1.3699012

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As is the case with most issues, if I think I need to know something I
go about trying to learn it. I've little time for learning about stuff
I have no need to know.

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Yep. So much for curiosity, so much for education... Ignorance is bliss!

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No, ignorance would be when someone doesn't know something they need
to know.

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ignorance
noun
ig·?no·?rance ?ig-n(?-)r?n(t)s
Synonyms of ignorance
: the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or
awareness

 
I see, so by that definition you're ignorant because you don't know
how to write C++ code, sail a boat, scuba dive, or skin and butcher a
deer.

Such a simplistic thinker! It should be obvious that a person can be
ignorant of some topics but not others. And even regarding one topic,
ignorance is not binary. One can know certain facts about a topic but be
ignorant of other facts.
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I've done some of the things you listed, and have been curious enough to
learn a bit about others by reading and/or discussing them with others.

I doubt you have any idea what C++ is, let alone know how to write it.
Sailing a real boat, not a simple 12 foot cat rig requires a lot more
than raising the sails and handling the wheel or tiller. I doubt you
have any idea what a cat rig is, let alone how you trim the sails. Do
you even know what trimming the sails is all about?  Scuba diving
safely requires enough knowledge that most people, me included, attend
classes to do it. I doubt you have any idea what limitations you need
to be aware of.

...and then, I'd love to watch you try to skin and butcher a deer.
Actually, I doubt you'd be able to field dress a deer.

But "I've little time for learning about stuff I have no need to know"
shows a general lack of curiosity, which leads to a general lack of
knowledge - as evidenced in our discussions! It makes for a dull person.

<LOL> You're the dullest individual I've ever come across. As near as
I can see, you've never done anything that involved any real risk.

Contrast with, say, Andrew Muzi, who had no need to learn as much
history as he obviously knows. John Slocomb who had no need to learn how
to build a bike frame... and all the countless people who pursue their
own interests, their own art, their own pastimes. Hell, I had no real
need to learn machining, welding, music, woodworking and more. But life
is much richer with more knowledge.

I had no need to learn welding, music, woodworking either, but I did.
The machining was a requirement for working in a machine shop, which I
did. I had no need to learn scuba diving, or sailing, raising horses,
or laying cement block or brick, which I also did...  I had no need to
build a small barn which I also did, including the roofing. I did have
a need to learn how to raise my kids as a single dad, including all
the household and family duties as well as holding a full time job.
Yes, I had full custody and became a pretty decent cook, something I
still do regularly even though I have no need to do it. I had no need
to volunteer at assisted living homes, but I did that, too. I learned
how to do karaoke programs there, which I also took out on the road
and made a little money at. I learned how to perform as a singer,
which I also made a lttle money at. The entertainment thing was simply
for the joy of doing it. The money was piddly. Did I forget to mention
that I worked as a bartender several times as a favor for my friend
who did wedding receptions. I make a pretty decent old fashioned, but
that money was piddly too. I was doing really well at my job at that
point. Later I tended bar at the assisted living homes for free.

(How _does_ a person become a mature adult without having learned
anything about Stoicism? That's just astonishing.)

Actually I know it well, in fact I pretty much live it, but I never
heard the term Stoicism. I do know what stoic means and I believe I
have used that term in my books.

--
C'est bon
Soloman