Re: Patching TPU innertube

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:

On 12/31/2024 6:25 AM, Catrike Rider wrote:

On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:54:03 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
 

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I read Frankie's violins. If I remember the test correct it was
carried out in a hotel room and the test players got to play each
instrument for something like 1 minute.

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Perhaps you should read more than one article before wading into a
discussion you know nothing about.

I have no opinion on whether violin players can tell the difference
between Strads and modern violins.  It's not important to my point,
which is that *someone* can tell the difference, even if it requires an
electron microscope.  That is all that is required to explain the
difference in price.  Even if the preference is completely unrelated to
the sound actually produced by the violins.

A preference for old violins based completely on history and emotion may
be a problem for you, but it makes perfect sense to economists.  The
multi-million dollar price seems to be the biggest issue for you; I'm
not sure why.  I object to buying and selling a few things, like vice
presidents, but free commerce in violins is something I favor.

These tests have been performed many, many times since the 1800s in
various environments. The most frequent result by far is that
multi-million dollar Strads are not magic.
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From one of the articles I cited, which you apparently did _not_ read:
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" During 1 week in 2012, they invited 10 professional soloists to
Vincennes, a suburb of Paris, and assembled 13 new violins and nine
old Italians, including six Stradivariuses and two made by Guarneri
del Gesús. The researchers did not tell the musicians that they would
be playing old and new instruments and instructed them to suppose they
were picking an instrument to use on a tour.
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"The violins were winnowed to six old and six new in a double-blind
listening test judged by the soloists. Then, each of them donned dark
goggles so they couldn't distinguish the instruments by sight and
tested out these top fiddles in two 75-minute sessions, one in a small
room and one in a 300-seat auditorium. (Soloists could also play their
own instruments for comparison.) After each session, the soloists
picked his or her four favorites fiddles and rated them on scale of
zero to 10 for qualities such as articulation, projection, and
playability. Finally, after the second session, each subject had to
guess whether instruments in a small selection that included some of
their favorites were old or new."
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If you read that before, you should have taken notes when reading "75
minute sessions" and "300-seat auditorium."
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So what does 1 minute in a hotel room tell you?

It tells you whatever the people who pay for the study want to tell
you.

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Nothing can be known. All is mystery. Ommmmm...

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