Re: Extensive article on Rivendell and Grant Petersen

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Sujet : Re: Extensive article on Rivendell and Grant Petersen
De : shouman (at) *nospam* comcast.net (Radey Shouman)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 26. Sep 2024, 22:19:11
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Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:

On 9/25/2024 6:42 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
It's good that the pendulum has finally swung back to reasonable
tire
clearance. But billions of cyclists are still stopping plenty well
enough with rim brakes, even when they're wet.
That shows your circle of cyclists really...
>
Never seen folks wildly cross chaining? And yes swapping chainrings about
if your moving fast ie having to move up and down is tedious, all but one
of my bikes are doubles.
Just because it’s not something you’ve encountered doesn’t mean it
isn’t a
thing.
Most of my remarks on this issue relate not only my own experiences,
but the experiences I've observed among my riding friends. So yes,
they do show my circle of cyclists.
>
But the question becomes, whose "circle of cyclists" is closer to
typical? I think only a tiny percentage who are riding fast enough to
benefit from minor aerodynamic changes, who are braking hard enough to
benefit from improvements in brake modulation, who need ultra fast
gear changes, etc. The folks I ride with will do 40 to 50 miles
without worry, and that already exceeds the ability of "everyman"
cyclists. (Heck, I had many folks amazed that I rode seven miles to
get to work!)

You have also told us that when it looked like rain you just didn't ride
to work.  Nothing wrong with that -- Do what makes you happy, but please
realize that you have eliminated the data points that might have shown
improved braking to be useful.

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