Re: Cycling editorial

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Sujet : Re: Cycling editorial
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 23. Apr 2024, 01:48:46
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:26:12 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 4/22/2024 2:23 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:16:48 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
 
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:44:15 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
On 4/21/2024 10:18 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:00:19 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
On 4/21/2024 4:54 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:24:56 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
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I don't believe there's a rule against mounting a water bottle on the
bars. I could be wrong.
>
You're wrong:
<https://road.cc/content/news/49519-uci-sets-sights-drinking-bottles-next>
"The new rule Article 1.3.024 will only allow bottles to be positioned
on the down tube and seat tube."
>
<https://assets.ctfassets.net/761l7gh5x5an/7s1ma6mVAVlFwi8rRgy0Iw/1bef531dd9e9f534c34ff016c68e3c72/Clarification_Guide_of_the_UCI_Technical_Regulation_-_20211005_-_ENG.pdf>
See pages 49 to 51.
>
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heh heh heh
>
Riders used to complain that the 'white sox only; must cover
the ankle' rule was silly. And also the official with a tape
measure checking distance between hem of shorts leg and knee
back during the 'black shorts only' rule era.
>
But as they say all is change. A new era with even more
arbitrary and ridiculous rules.
>
In the interest of not starting a political discussion, I'll just
mention that the problem has been well known for many centuries and is
commonly known as the Chinese version of legalism:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(Chinese_philosophy)>
Legalism can be made to work, but does not scale easily to large
numbers without using coersion.
>
"Change everything"  (I have a rubber stamp with those words).
>
It's universal to bureaucracies as Hayek brilliantly explained.
>
Yep.  His book "The Road to Serfdom" is on the basic reading list for
prospective Libertarians.
<https://ctheory.sitehost.iu.edu/img/Hayek_The_Road_to_Serfdom.pdf>
I read it in college, along with "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand:
<https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.458873>  (90 MBytes)
Both books convinced me that the default answer to excessive
bureaucracy is NOT more bureaucracy.
>
Where is my rubber stamp hiding?
 
I read Atlas Shrugged when I was in High School. I never read "The
Road to Serfdom," but I think I will. Thanks for the PDF. I hope it's
legal. It's now on my Kindle
>
After that , his soul mate von MIses:
>
https://archive.org/details/HumanAction

I'm a bit of a John Locke, Thomas Hobbes kind of guy...  but it was a
very long time ago.

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