Sujet : Re: Todays rant
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 16. Dec 2024, 16:15:18
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 06:32:37 -0500, zen cycle
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funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/15/2024 5:14 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 16:02:12 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
<Gigantic Snip>
"It was ... not detrimental to slaves" is a pretty astonishing view. It
allowed people with zero legal rights to be counted to boost the power
of the slave states, making abolition a much more difficult project.
IOW, it contributed directly to keeping those people enslaved.
Nonsense. Without the 3/5 Compromise the South would have gone their
own way, the Constitional Convention would have broken up, and we'd
likely have had two unions. The 3/5th Compromise kept the proposed
"union" together which kept the northern abolitionists politically
involved with slavery in the South, which eventually led to the Civil
War and abolition.
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wow...more revisionist history from the dumbasses right-wing echo chamber.
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The northern states balked for exactly the reason frank stated. Slaves
weren't considered humans, let alone citizens, by the southern states,
they were considered chattel. Yet they wanted them to be included for
the purposes of representation. As frank states, it would have been
similar to a chicken farmer trying to include his chickens for the
population count.
<eyeroll> Apparently, the point sailed over dimbulb's Junior's low
brow, just as it had with Krygowski. Of course, the abolitionists in
the free states did not want the slaves to be counted at all because
of humanitarian reasons and because they did not want the slave states
to have more legislative power.
They compromised, however, in order to create the USA. Had they not,
the southern states' goal in the Civil War, separation from the
abolitionist states, would have already existed.
Who knows how long slavery would have continued, but certainly longer
than the 13th Amendment ratification in 1865.
Was the 3/5th compromise a benefit to slaves? Ask, instead, was the
subsequent creation of the USA a benefit to slaves?
-- C'est bonSoloman