Re: General Motors quietly closed the door this week on a goal to make only electric vehicles by 2035.

On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:53:12 -0400, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:

AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> writes:
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On 7/17/2025 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 20:04:43 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
<beej@beej.us> wrote:
 

In article <1vki7k10egcrhostdbs6sp6ml5pdri0r93@4ax.com>,
Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

Gas and oil subsidies are for fuel sources. EV subsidies are to
manipulate consumer purchases.

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I agree insofar as I agree that consumers don't purchase gas and oil.

Gas and oil are important for many more things that automobiles.
Batteries for trucks, trains, ships, and airplanes are only dreams.
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C'est bon
Soloman

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And ethylene for a gazillion polymer products and packages.
And asphalt, bunker fuel and solvents. And myriad other crude cracking
fractions.  Oh, plus helium (there's a shortage) from natural gas
production.

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Natural gas for ammonia production, meaning nitrate fertilizers and
feedstock for all sorts of amines.  Fossil fuel is used for almost all
cement production, used to build almost everything.  Coke from coal for
steel production.  It's possible to imagine replacing all of these with
something else, actually doing so will be very difficult.
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The supply of fossil fuels is certainly finite, and eventually all of
those replacements will have to be done or industrial civilization
abandoned.  Guessing when that will happen is a mug's game.

As resources get scarse, the market will raise prices and then,
alternate resources will emerge. We don't need the morons in the
government to fiddle with it.

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C'est bon
Soloman