Re: Some bicycle paths...

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De : slocombjb (at) *nospam* gmail.com (John B.)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 25. Jul 2024, 02:45:47
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 10:35:03 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 7/24/2024 9:41 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 7/24/2024 8:10 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 06:12:12 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 10:33:27 +0200, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>
Am 23.07.2024 um 17:14 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:58:12 +0200, Wolfgang Strobl
<news5@mystrobl.de> wrote:
>
https://www.google.de/maps/@50.735366,7.1052758,3a,75y,345.37h,78.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stSQFnCmubeCCT3NcbxPfwA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtSQFnCmubeCCT3NcbxPfwA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D345.3653731279749%26pitch%3D11.420637510237043%26thumbfov%3
D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu>
>
I see a sign that suggets that bicyclists can ride
there. I don't see
anything that says you can't ride on the traffic lanes.
>
The meaning of the round blue sign with a bicycle is
"bicycles must ride
here and nowhere else".
>
In France, by now they have two different signs:
Square blue sign with white bicycle: Bicycles can ride
here.
Round blue sign with white bicycle: Bicycles *must* ride
here.
>
(I think at most 5% of the bike lanes in France now have
the square sign).
>
Rolf
>
Thanks for the clarification.
>
For the record, I oppose any laws that prohibits bicycles
from riding
on streets and roads other than limited access highways.
>
But doesn't the building of bike paths imply that riding
on the
highway is dangerious? And if riding on the road is
dangerious
shouldn't it be banned?
>
After all, Frankie posted a chart showing numbers killed
by various
weapons mass shootings and after separating the numbers
into those
known to be killed only by  "Semi-Automatic Rifle"  were
some 118,
while those killed on bicycles in 2022 amounted 1084.
>
As  Frankie feels that killing some 118 with a semi-auto
rifle is
reason to ban the weapons then certainly killing 8 times
that number
with bicycles must be reason to ban there use on highways,
 
Bicycles and bicycle lanes weren't designed to kill people,
you idiot.
 
>
>
Hmmmm.
Some of those 'death chutes' certainly seem like that.

Well :-} I've never seen the idea toted that automobiles  are
"designed to kill people" although they seem to do a pretty good job
of doing so.

2021 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_death_and_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state
 Ohio - 7.4/100,000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_road_deaths
 Ohio - 11.5/100,000

--
Cheers,

John B.


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