Re: Disc brake maintenance tips

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Sujet : Re: Disc brake maintenance tips
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 22. Jun 2024, 19:45:09
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On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 13:02:11 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 6/22/2024 1:05 AM, John B. wrote:
 
As I've mentioned before I frequently see a little 6 or 7 year old
girl charging down the street chasing her brother - Very doubtful that
she has read a bicycle "How to do" book.
>
True. Little kids rolling around quiet residential streets don't need to
know much. People who don't venture off isolated, flat bike trails don't
need to know much. A person's needs depend on what a person wants to
accomplish.

True, and since I already "accomplished" many miles of bicycling on
streets and roads, I don't believe I need to suffer any instructions
about it.

If someone believes they do, have at it.

Also, John Forester used to say that education was not the only way to
learn competent bicycling skills.

Most of what John Forester said was drivel.

He said that there have always been
some who arrived at the best techniques by trial and error - although
the "error" bit can obviously be dangerous.

Fortunately, common sense is a factor that greatly reduces the danger
of simply doing what some bozo tells you to do.

There have always been some
who learned from others - the classic case being club cyclists who
gradually learn by talking to and observing more expert club members.

<LOL> Join our club so we can tell you what we think you ought to do.
In the meantime, we can gossip.

A parallel might be machine shop skills. A sixteen year old kid who
watched some professional machinists and snuck into the shop after hours
to practice could possibly become halfway competent. But compared to
organized training, that's a very inefficient and hazardous way to learn.

Another Krygowski argument by analogy.

And I'll note that if a person has not read one of the relevant cycling
books and/or not taken one of the relevant cycling courses, they have no
idea of the content. They have no idea what they're missing, or dismissing.

A quick look at Amazon's sample of Forester's book provides an idea of
what the pompous jackass had to say. He says some people just don't
know how to enjoy bicycling, but he's ready to help you with that.
They actually want $29 for that ridiculous book.

I say "Pfffft!"

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