Re: Disc brake maintenance tips

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 17:14:14 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 13:20:31 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 6/26/2024 12:58 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 12:00:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 

On 6/26/2024 10:43 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 10:09:17 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 6/24/2024 7:44 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 6/24/2024 12:22 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

   Kids seem to be indestructible.

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A couple years ago, a kid in Hudson, Ohio (a place I visit
frequently) was killed while riding his bike on a sidewalk.
It's too bad nobody told him a bit about the danger that
killed him.
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Kids are resilient, but far from indestructible.
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Two different things.
The unfortunate child was uninformed but not hesitant.
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Mr Liebermann may have meant 'undaunted' and not
'indestructible'.

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Nope.  I meant indestructible.  Undaunted implies that the kid rode on
the sidewalk KNOWING that it might be dangerous.  The sidewalk might
not have been the cause of death.  Undaunted means:
"not afraid to continue doing something or trying to do something even
though there are problems, dangers, etc."
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Kids tend to collect numerous minor injuries and recover quickly while
learning what works and what doesn't.  It's called trial and error.
It's the same for doing "stupid" things for no obvious reason.
Unfortunately, as we get older, we lose the spirit of adventure and
willingness to experiment that helps kids learn.  The minor injuries
escalate into major injuries and the learning experience shifts from
trial and error, to reading the instructions and warning labels before
operating.  Therefore, to prevent this fatal tragedy, one would only
need to have attached a suitable warning label to the bicycle. "Riding
on the sidewalk might be fatal" should be a sufficient to prevent
further fatalities caused by dangerous sidewalk bicycle riding.
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Back to painfully stacking firewood.  I'm undaunted by the possibility
of injuring myself (probably by tripping on a log) but nevertheless, I
blunder onward.
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OK, I get that, and you're right, and it's an important
feature of humans.

 
As I mentioned elsewhere, I just people by there ability and
willingness to learn (new things).  Those who will not learn are
evolutionary failures and only worthy of a Dawrwin Award:
<https://darwinawards.com>
 

Better we should retain some of that childlike spirit over a
lifetime!

 
I've spent a lifetime being inquisitive.  That's inquisitive in the
style of the 12th century judicial interrogation.  It's not enough for
me to know how to do something.  I also want to know the history, why
it was necessary, what motivates people to do it, what are the
potential side effects, etc.  Unlike the typical 4 year old and their
endless and repetitive "why" questions, I've learned to be somewhat
more diplomatic and less irritating.  Knowing the history and rational
behind something is as important as knowing how to do the something.
It's unfortunate that few employers will pay someone to know and
understand the background.  Instead, they only pay someone who know
how to do it.
 

Maybe I'm missing something but what's the difference
between 'crushed to death' and 'destroyed'?

 
Crushing defines only one method of dying.  Destroyed is rather vague,
does not necessary involve a fatality, and is superficially concerned
with what (if anything) remained after some act or action.  There's a
little overlap between these terms.  Unless you assume that destroyed
involved a fatality, there's nothing that sufficiently connects these
terms to allow a comparison.

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Still unclear to me. I don't see a dead child as
'indestructible'.

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How about:
"Kids in general tend to absorb more punishment and survive injuries
better than adults?"
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Please note the distinction between my writing "kids" and you writing
(one) "dead child".  I'm talking about the general population of young
bicycle riders seem to be indestructible, while you are referring to a
single dead child.  It's easy for me to generalize on the basis of
large numbers of sidewalk riding kids surviving the experience.  It's
rather difficult to do the same on the basis of one child's fatal
experience.  The kid that died riding on the sidewalk was obviously
not indestructible.

What's missing from this discussion is "what killed the kid on the
sidewalk?" An elephant stepped on him? He fell asleep and rode over a
lane, marker? ?

--
Cheers,

John B.