Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable

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Sujet : Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 22. Jul 2024, 11:06:43
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 07:52:38 +0200, Wolfgang Strobl
<news5@mystrobl.de> wrote:

Am Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:19:23 -0400 schrieb Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org>:
>
On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 09:11:58 +0200, Wolfgang Strobl
<news5@mystrobl.de> wrote:
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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 15:46:53 -0400 schrieb Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org>:
>
On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:19:02 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
On 7/20/2024 1:08 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://bicycledriving.com/law/a-bicycle-safety-parable
 
 
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+1
I fought those fights against The Planners all my life. And
lost every time.
>
>
For what it's worth. I am opposed to any "bikeway"  that is not
totally isolated from vehicular traffic and parked cars (bike lanes).
>
That is completely missing the point.
>
I thought one of the points was about disliking bike lanes.
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The general point was, bikes _are_ vehicular traffic and should operate
by the rules for vehicular traffic. No need for bike lanes or other
types of isolation.

What made the guy in that article, or you, for that matter, qualified
to decide what other people should do.

Did you really read the text linked above? I very much doubt it.

Oh, I did read the fear mongering text, and thought most of it was
nonsense. I did agree with what he said about bike lane, however.

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20 Jul 24 * A Bicycle Safety Parable105Frank Krygowski
20 Jul 24 +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable103AMuzi
20 Jul 24 i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable102Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable101Wolfgang Strobl
21 Jul 24 i  `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable100Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable93AMuzi
21 Jul 24 i   i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable92Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   i +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable83Jeff Liebermann
21 Jul 24 i   i i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable82Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   i i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable81Jeff Liebermann
21 Jul 24 i   i i  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable42Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   i i  i+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2AMuzi
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24 Jul 24 i   i i  i+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable5Jeff Liebermann
24 Jul 24 i   i i  ii+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2Zen Cycle
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24 Jul 24 i   i i  ii+- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1AMuzi
24 Jul 24 i   i i  ii`- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
24 Jul 24 i   i i  i+- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable33Frank Krygowski
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable32Catrike Ryder
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable16Frank Krygowski
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25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable11Frank Krygowski
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i  +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i  `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable9AMuzi
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27 Jul 24 i   i i  i       ii `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
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22 Jul 24 i   i i   `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable37Jeff Liebermann
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22 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable18John B.
22 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable17Jeff Liebermann
22 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i  +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i  `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable15John B.
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable13Jeff Liebermann
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   i+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable8Frank Krygowski
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   ii`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable7Jeff Liebermann
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   ii `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable6Frank Krygowski
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   ii  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2AMuzi
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23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   ii  `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable3Jeff Liebermann
24 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   ii   `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2Frank Krygowski
24 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   ii    `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Jeff Liebermann
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22 Jul 24 i   i i    i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable9Catrike Ryder
22 Jul 24 i   i i    i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable8Frank Krygowski
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23 Jul 24 i   i i    i   `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable6Frank Krygowski
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23 Jul 24 i   i i    i     `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable4Frank Krygowski
23 Jul 24 i   i i    i      +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
23 Jul 24 i   i i    i      `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2Zen Cycle
23 Jul 24 i   i i    i       `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
23 Jul 24 i   i i    `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Zen Cycle
21 Jul 24 i   i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable8Frank Krygowski
21 Jul 24 i   i  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   i  i`- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1AMuzi
21 Jul 24 i   i  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2Frank Krygowski
21 Jul 24 i   i  i`- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
26 Jul 24 i   i  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2John B.
26 Jul 24 i   i  i`- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1AMuzi
26 Jul 24 i   i  `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Zen Cycle
22 Jul 24 i   `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable5Wolfgang Strobl
22 Jul 24 i    `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable4Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Wolfgang Strobl

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