Re: Todays rant

On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:59:41 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 12/13/2024 8:41 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 12/13/2024 4:06 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 12/13/2024 1:15 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:

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  The vast majority of the mass shootings that target
random victims in schools, malls, and theaters aren't
committed by people with a violent past, so the argument
that 'they never committed violence before' is pretty
much irrelevant to the context of this conversation.
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Yes, I realize there have been a number of instances  at
clubs, bars, and parties where it seems to be related to
gang activity. Those aren't' the types of incidents we're
discussing.
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Yes I agree.  The bulk of 'mass shooting' events are
tangential to ongoing criminal activity; at a party, in a
bar, drive-by in front of a crowd, etc.  Utterly different
problem (with different possible resolutions) than a
deranged but determined homicidal maniac.
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I can't think of a deterrent/preventive strategy except
for maybe public execution and I hesitate to assume even
that would dissuade Son of Sam, Nikolas Cruz, Richard
Ramirez, Stephen Paddock, Jeffrey Dahmer, or their ilk.

 
One suggestion might be to look at the social conditions in
nations similar to the U.S. but with far fewer killings,
especially gun killings, per capita. Emulate what they do.
 
"‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This
Regularly Happens"
 
https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-
nation-where-this-r-1848971668/
 
 

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I do not have a snappy solution.
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some context:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1386759/mass-shootings-us-other-developed-world/
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

Even if all the "assault weapons" were rounded up and destroyed, it
wouldn't stop the mass murders nor any other murders. There are too
many other ways to do it.

Where there's a will, there's a way. The problem is there are people
with the will.

--
C'est bon
Soloman