Sujet : Re: Todays rant
De : slocombjb (at) *nospam* gmail.com (John B.)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 11. Dec 2024, 05:54:10
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 22:48:13 -0500, Frank Krygowski
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On 12/10/2024 7:40 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 14:15:55 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
On 12/10/2024 1:03 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/10/2024 11:49 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 12/10/2024 10:23 AM, AMuzi wrote:
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For those who feel a .223 is too low in mass, AR-15 are offered
in .30 REM-AR ...
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For what practical purpose?
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Considered better for larger animals.
F = MA and all that.
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I was referring to the platform, not the projectile. Choosing an AR for
hunting large animals is choosing fashion over function.
O.K. disregarding caliber tell us why the
a AR type is unsuitable hunting large animals but first specify what
"large animals" you are referring to. Elephants?
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That's a question for Andrew. He's the one who introduced "larger animals."
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My point is that the AR platform is not optimized for hunting. That was
not its design objective. It was optimized for combat against other men
with guns.
But what is "optimize"? Lets see... as I've written, the semi auto
rifle has been sold for more then a hunted years so no optimize there.
The caliber ? The 22-250 developed in about 1937 has nearly the same
ballistics as the AR so seemingly no optimizing there either. Short,
light weight rifle? Light, short length firearms have existed for
years -probably centuries...
So what is that optimize?
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Is it possible to hunt "large animals" with it? Yes, but it's also
possible to hunt large animals with bows & arrows, or I suppose even
spears. It's certainly been done.
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My point is the AR's advantages are used too often for killing many
innocent people at once, and/or members of less innocent, competing
gangs who also have ARs or other rapid fire guns.
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Again, lets see... I read that the "researchers from Georgetown
University in 2021, found that 24.6 million Americans own AR-15-style
rifles." If the AR is such a dangerious weapon as you allege and there
such a multitude of them in the hands of USians you would think that
the roads would be full of dead bodies.... but they are not.
Or perhaps a more simply way to put it is "Frank, once exhibits his
lack of knowledge of what he is talking about".
And their ready availability has required large expenses (taxes, police
resources, etc.) to try to mitigate their potential and actual harm.
They are a large net detriment to society.
-- Cheers,John B.