Re: BOLO pervert cyclist

On Sun, 08 Sep 2024 20:56:53 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On Sun, 08 Sep 2024 16:13:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:
 

Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:47:51 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

On 9/7/2024 9:03 PM, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:36:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

On 9/7/2024 11:10 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 9/7/2024 10:04 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

 
Auto crash fatalities are a regrettable side effect of the use of cars
for transportation. And cars are so beneficial for transportation that
American society would cease to function if cars could not be used.
 
Mass murders in schools are a regrettable side effect of the worship
of guns, especially AR-style rifles, the weapon of choice for such
murders. And I'll note that you have _still_ never managed to state a
practical societal benefit of ARs in public possession.
 
Unlike cars, if ARs could not be used, America would be better off by
far. Just the tax savings from not having to "harden" public schools
would be worth the change.
 
Or to summarize yet again: Benefits vs. detriments, John! A concept
that absolutely baffles you!
 

 
By that logic, are fatal car crashes by Ford Fiesta or Prius drivers
less tragic than those by scary black pickups?

 
We could certainly talk about advantages vs. disadvantages of huge
pickup trucks and other similar vehicles. Books have been written on
that topic.

 
Like
https://www.truckaddons.com/pros-and-cons-of-owning-a-pickup/
 
Notice I provide a reference, you don't.

 
https://slate.com/business/2022/02/suvs-pickups-heavy-huge-deadly-dont-buy-em.html
 
or
https://reason.com/2024/02/02/why-are-pickup-trucks-ridiculously-huge-blame-government/
 
"... critics aren't entirely wrong to point out the ill effects of
mega-truck proliferation?or the oddity of using a 6,500-pound,
22-foot-long vehicle mainly as a grocery-getter. Pedestrian deaths have
reached 40-year highs and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety
research shows that as trucks and SUVs have gotten taller and heavier,
they likewise have posed greater risks to those outside the vehicle."
 
I have no problem with compact pickup trucks, just as I have no problem
with what were always considered normal and legitimate hunting rifles.
But bloated, oversized modern pickup trucks are a close parallel to
AR-style guns. They are bought mostly to raise the owners' testosterone
level, by providing capabilities that are essentially never needed. And
the detriments are externalities, imposed on others who get none of the
minuscule benefits.

 
I susppect that way down deep Krygowski is jealous of the people who
drive big pickup trucks...
 
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Soloman
 

 
I?d be frankly staggered if he was, such vehicles used as they are ie
attempted status symbols see the Tesla Truck for in someways the pinnacle
of such stuff.
 
Roger Merriman

 
I don't think that Tesla truck is a status thing. If someone gave me
one I'd trade it on something more practical before anyone knew I had
it and that I'd been dumb enough to buy it. Same with an electric car
or bicycle.

>
It very much is a status symbol and arguably the worst of Tesla ie Musk
seems to have had way too much influence with this over other Teslas.
>
If one really wants to and I’d suggest not! whole loads of influencers with
their Tesla truck, all over the socials, it appears to be at best mediocre
off road, most of the tracks showing how good it is, look easily driven by
a French farmer in a Citroen!
>
And yes in comparison to the F150 EV Ford apparently knowing their
customers has all the stuff that folks do with pickup trucks or at least
aspire to do so, but either way beyond being a EV it’s a pickup truck
though Riven and other startups don’t seem to have made same mistakes as
Tesla ie extending testing a prototype to do what it’s claimed to do.
>

 
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C'est bon
Soloman
 

Roger Merriman
>

Electric trucks, pickups or 18 wheelers, are even more ridiculous than
electric bicycles. I can understand someone having electric car if all
they do is make short trips and have charging capability at their
home. I once saw Tesla (they're the only ones that stand out) here in
Florida with New York plates, and I wondered how much falderal the
trip required. (falderal as in checking ahead and changing plans to
get to a charging station at the right time.)

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Soloman