Re: Colnago Dream HP

On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 19:05:38 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 8/19/2024 3:18 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 20:31:33 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
(trimmed)

FWIW, I've brought a week's worth of groceries home by bike countless
times. I have two open-top panniers designed for shopping. When they're
filled to the top, some of the load can usually be laid atop the rack
and bungeed in place. It's really not a problem, especially since we
both eat quite a bit less than we used to, which I think is normal at
our age.

 
Of the bicycle photos Tom has posted on Flickr:
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/153690295@N06/with/53906740781>
none of them have pannier racks or threaded eyelets for rack
attachment points. 

 
Yes, I was aware of Tom's tastes. We've had others here, including the
guy from Netherlands, who have essentially said they use their bikes
only for "training" or for "play."
 
It's a personal choice, I guess. But I enjoy riding enough that I prefer
using the bike for a lot of my transportation. Life changes have reduced
that (for example, I no longer need to work, so I don't ride there) but
it's still part of my lifestyle.
 
And it made sense for me to equip some bikes for utility use. Racks,
bags, fenders, lights, etc. add to their versatility.
 

This is going to require some customizing, a
utility bicycle or as you suggest, a trailer.

 
There are various bikepacking bags that don’t need panniers racks or hard
attachments points but strap on to the bike or some bike rucksack designed
for such purposes.

 
I don't think that system would be much good for a reasonable load of
groceries. If I had only a light, "fast" road bike, I'd go with a tiny
trailer for grocery runs.
 
 

Seems to work for folks bike backing across countries, and indeed bar bags
and frame bags let alone the humongous saddle bags, packs a serious amount
of stuff!
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And frankly it’s presumably only him and wife how much groceries do they
need weekly? He’s retired so presumably could do a few runs to different
places per week and so on.
>
Roger Merriman

I really dislike short rides. It takes me 4 or 5 miles to get my heart
rate up to 80 BPM. Once I get moving I want to ride until it's time
for little rest break and that takes at least twenty miles. Suburban
streets are full of stops and starts and waiting, or trying to
convince overly polite drivers that I don't need them to wave me
through. I really hate when they do that.