Re: cyclists attack auto driver

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Sujet : Re: cyclists attack auto driver
De : theise (at) *nospam* panix.com (Ted Heise)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 23. Aug 2024, 16:19:14
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:37:33 -0500,
  AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 On 8/21/2024 2:31 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:30:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Spoken like a man totally ignorant of music theory, how
difficult it can be and how useful it is when playing,
improvising or composing.
 
<LOL> I doubt the lack of knowledge of music theory caused
Willy Nelson, Peter Frampton, Paul Simon, John Lennon,
McArtney, or George Harrison, any trouble...  Need I go on? I
could fill the page with succesful musician/composers who
never even heard the term "music theory."
 
 Yes to all that but an equal number of counterexamples.
 
 There's no general rule; Formal training assists and enriches
 some performers/songwriters while others get along well on
 extreme diligence and independent study alone.  Once in a while
 there's even a 'natural', a.k.a., 'idiot savant' as an outlier. 
 From musicians I've known, I'd say success correlates strongly
 to extreme diligence above all else.

+1

As someone who started college as a music major, I can confirm the
two main categories of career are teaching and performing.  So far
as classical music goes, making a career out of performing has a
couple of options: toiling away at very low paying jobs or hitting
the bigtime as a star.  Like professional athletics, great success
alomost requires an extreme degree of dedication and effort--not
to mention some luck,  It didn't take me too long to reaize I
didn't want to spend half (or more) of every day practicing.  On
top of that, I didn't really want to teach--so I made an informed
decision to switch majors.

FWIW, I had music theory in high school, and really enjoyed it. 
It definitely enhanced my musical abilities too.

--
Ted Heise      <theise@panix.com>       West Lafayette, IN, USA

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