Re: Some traffic stats

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Date : 15. Mar 2024, 11:45:33
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Am 15.03.2024 um 08:49 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 18:07:02 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 
On 3/14/2024 5:01 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 16:25:25 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 3/14/2024 4:17 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 17:06:08 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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Please. For ~99% of cyclists, bicycling is not a "sport."
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Nonsense.
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I'm with Mr Krygowski on that point.
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Riding to work, grocery, accompanying children to and in a
park and so on would not be described as 'sporting
activities' by the participants or by observers.
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Most bicyclists I've heard of ride for recreation, at least in the
USA.
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As in so may fields the 'weekend warrior' cyclists get all
the press but they are still a small subset of 'cyclists'.
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sport noun (GAME)
A1
a game or activity that people do to keep healthy or for enjoyment,
often competing against each other:
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sport noun (PHYSICAL ACTIVITY)
A1
all types of physical activity that people do to keep healthy or for
enjoyment:
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/learner-english/sport
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Riding to work in a Midwest winter is outside that.
  True, but in the USA, most who do that have other means to get to
work, so riding a bike to work in cold and snow is a choice they make.
If it's not the cost, it must be an enjoyment or health related
choice.
It can also be an ecological choice, a convenience choice (when cycling is faster than driving due to traffic jams or a non-road shortcut), and then "most" is not "all": there are people who (for age reasons or for health reasons) are unable to drive but able to bicycle.

But back to the sports issue...
 I believe that an activity needn't be competitive to be a sport. Are
not hunting and fishing sports? How about a little non-competitive
target shooting?   Hang gliding?  Scuba diving?  non-competitive
skiing?
Bicycling from A to B has the primary aim of transprotation unless it is followed more or less immediately by non-cycling trip (e.g. car or train) from B to A.
Bicycling from A to A clearly does not have the primary aim of transportation and might be counted as non-competitive sports or as simple leasure activity.
Similarly, it is up to discussion whether hiking or "having an afternoon stroll" from A to A is seen as non-competitive sport or as non-sport leasure activity (this classification might depend on secondary features like "does the user track the route", "is there a speed-measuring device present", "how many breaks for what purpose" (e.g. half an hour laying in the sun or taking pictures are pointers that this might be non-sport).
Rolf

Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Mar 24 * Some traffic stats65AMuzi
13 Mar 24 `* Re: Some traffic stats64Frank Krygowski
13 Mar 24  +* Re: Some traffic stats58Zen Cycle
14 Mar 24  i`* Re: Some traffic stats57Frank Krygowski
14 Mar 24  i +* Re: Some traffic stats55Jeff Liebermann
14 Mar 24  i i+* Re: Some traffic stats4AMuzi
14 Mar 24  i ii`* Re: Some traffic stats3Zen Cycle
14 Mar 24  i ii `* Re: Some traffic stats2AMuzi
14 Mar 24  i ii  `- Re: Some traffic stats1Zen Cycle
14 Mar 24  i i+- Re: Some traffic stats1Zen Cycle
14 Mar 24  i i`* Re: Some traffic stats49Frank Krygowski
14 Mar 24  i i `* Re: Some traffic stats48Catrike Ryder
14 Mar 24  i i  `* Re: Some traffic stats47AMuzi
15 Mar 24  i i   +* Re: Some traffic stats13Catrike Ryder
15 Mar 24  i i   i`* Re: Some traffic stats12AMuzi
15 Mar 24  i i   i `* Re: Some traffic stats11Catrike Ryder
15 Mar 24  i i   i  +* Re: Some traffic stats7Rolf Mantel
15 Mar 24  i i   i  i+- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
15 Mar 24  i i   i  i+* Re: Some traffic stats2Zen Cycle
15 Mar 24  i i   i  ii`- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 24  i i   i  i`* Re: Some traffic stats3Joy Beeson
16 Mar 24  i i   i  i `* Re: Some traffic stats2Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 24  i i   i  i  `- Re: Some traffic stats1AMuzi
15 Mar 24  i i   i  `* Re: Some traffic stats3AMuzi
16 Mar 24  i i   i   `* Re: Some traffic stats2Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 24  i i   i    `- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
15 Mar 24  i i   +* Re: Some traffic stats9Zen Cycle
15 Mar 24  i i   i`* Re: Some traffic stats8Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 24  i i   i `* Re: Some traffic stats7Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 24  i i   i  `* Re: Some traffic stats6Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 24  i i   i   `* Re: Some traffic stats5Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 24  i i   i    +- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 24  i i   i    +- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 24  i i   i    `* Re: Some traffic stats2zen cycle
17 Mar 24  i i   i     `- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 24  i i   `* Re: Some traffic stats24Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 24  i i    +* Re: Some traffic stats3AMuzi
16 Mar 24  i i    i+- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 24  i i    i`- Re: Some traffic stats1Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 24  i i    +- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 24  i i    `* Re: Some traffic stats19Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 24  i i     +- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 24  i i     `* Re: Some traffic stats17AMuzi
17 Mar 24  i i      `* Re: Some traffic stats16Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 24  i i       `* Re: Some traffic stats15AMuzi
17 Mar 24  i i        `* Re: Some traffic stats14Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 24  i i         `* Re: Some traffic stats13Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 24  i i          +* Re: Some traffic stats10Frank Krygowski
18 Mar 24  i i          i+- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
19 Mar 24  i i          i`* Re: Some traffic stats8Jeff Liebermann
19 Mar 24  i i          i `* Re: Some traffic stats7Frank Krygowski
19 Mar 24  i i          i  `* Re: Some traffic stats6Catrike Ryder
19 Mar 24  i i          i   `* Re: Some traffic stats5Rolf Mantel
19 Mar 24  i i          i    `* Re: Some traffic stats4Catrike Ryder
19 Mar 24  i i          i     `* Re: Some traffic stats3Frank Krygowski
19 Mar 24  i i          i      +- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
20 Mar 24  i i          i      `- Re: Some traffic stats1zen cycle
18 Mar 24  i i          +- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 24  i i          `- Re: Some traffic stats1AMuzi
14 Mar 24  i `- Re: Some traffic stats1Zen Cycle
14 Mar 24  `* Re: Some traffic stats5Catrike Ryder
14 Mar 24   `* Re: Some traffic stats4Frank Krygowski
14 Mar 24    +* Re: Some traffic stats2Zen Cycle
14 Mar 24    i`- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder
14 Mar 24    `- Re: Some traffic stats1Catrike Ryder

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