Sujet : Re: Some traffic stats
De : news (at) *nospam* hartig-mantel.de (Rolf Mantel)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 15. Mar 2024, 11:45:33
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Am 15.03.2024 um 08:49 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 18:07:02 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 3/14/2024 5:01 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 16:25:25 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 3/14/2024 4:17 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 17:06:08 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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Please. For ~99% of cyclists, bicycling is not a "sport."
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Nonsense.
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I'm with Mr Krygowski on that point.
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Riding to work, grocery, accompanying children to and in a
park and so on would not be described as 'sporting
activities' by the participants or by observers.
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Most bicyclists I've heard of ride for recreation, at least in the
USA.
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As in so may fields the 'weekend warrior' cyclists get all
the press but they are still a small subset of 'cyclists'.
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sport noun (GAME)
A1
a game or activity that people do to keep healthy or for enjoyment,
often competing against each other:
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sport noun (PHYSICAL ACTIVITY)
A1
all types of physical activity that people do to keep healthy or for
enjoyment:
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/learner-english/sport
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Riding to work in a Midwest winter is outside that.
True, but in the USA, most who do that have other means to get to
work, so riding a bike to work in cold and snow is a choice they make.
If it's not the cost, it must be an enjoyment or health related
choice.
It can also be an ecological choice, a convenience choice (when cycling is faster than driving due to traffic jams or a non-road shortcut), and then "most" is not "all": there are people who (for age reasons or for health reasons) are unable to drive but able to bicycle.
But back to the sports issue...
I believe that an activity needn't be competitive to be a sport. Are
not hunting and fishing sports? How about a little non-competitive
target shooting? Hang gliding? Scuba diving? non-competitive
skiing?
Bicycling from A to B has the primary aim of transprotation unless it is followed more or less immediately by non-cycling trip (e.g. car or train) from B to A.
Bicycling from A to A clearly does not have the primary aim of transportation and might be counted as non-competitive sports or as simple leasure activity.
Similarly, it is up to discussion whether hiking or "having an afternoon stroll" from A to A is seen as non-competitive sport or as non-sport leasure activity (this classification might depend on secondary features like "does the user track the route", "is there a speed-measuring device present", "how many breaks for what purpose" (e.g. half an hour laying in the sun or taking pictures are pointers that this might be non-sport).
Rolf