Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.

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Sujet : Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 12. May 2024, 19:37:58
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On 5/12/2024 12:16 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 12 May 2024 15:46:21 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
 
The cheapest form if overland transport is the railroads. So WHY are we shipping foods long distance on trucks?
 Do you know of a train that can cross an ocean?
 The reason trucks are popular for shipping food is that they don't
need to be loaded and unloaded from the carrier multiple times.  With
a truck, you go from point to point.  With an ocean along the route,
you need to unload the container from the truck, load it onto a
container ship, sail to a port, load the container on a truck, and
drive it to the destination.  If you're shipping food, the added
delays will cause the food to rot or require additional refrigeration.
For shipping within the USA, just replace the container ship with a
railroad and end up with little or no benefit.
 There's some benefit to rail if you use rail transport where the
container and the truck trailer move as a unit, saving some handling
time and labor.
<https://www.aar.org/issue/freight-rail-intermodal/>
 Map of the world showing only container vessels:
<https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-25.6/centery:22.6/zoom:3>
 
Containerization applies to both rail and ocean. Port or terminal cranes move containers to trailers for regional/local transport or the reverse.
https://constructionequipmentmag.com/storage/Press%20Files/02/67/12/26712-sxsasa.jpg
Decisions on routing are complex with no simple general rule. For example, as you mentioned earlier, time sensitive shipments can cross the country on a truck in less time than the loading/routing delay at a rail terminal or bump yard. And ocean shipping between US ports is almost nonexistent where any other mode exists due to the crippling effects of the Jones Act.  Barge traffic moreover is substantial for some things (corn, wheat, iron ore) at competitive times/rates but not for others.
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/iron-ore-carrying-cargo-barge-large-transporting-mined-hinterland-to-main-harbor-loading-big-ships-exporting-89476029.jpg
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Andrew Muzi
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10 May 24 * Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.44AMuzi
10 May 24 +* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.11Frank Krygowski
10 May 24 i+* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.7Catrike Ryder
11 May 24 ii+* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.4Frank Krygowski
12 May 24 iii+* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.2Frank Krygowski
12 May 24 iiii`- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1AMuzi
12 May 24 iii`- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1AMuzi
15 May 24 ii`* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.2Joy Beeson
19 May 24 ii `- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1Joy Beeson
11 May 24 i+- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1Joy Beeson
11 May 24 i`* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.2AMuzi
1 Jun 24 i `- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1Jeff Liebermann
11 May 24 +* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.3Catrike Ryder
12 May 24 i`* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.2Jeff Liebermann
13 May 24 i `- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1Catrike Ryder
11 May 24 `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.29AMuzi
11 May 24  +* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.5AMuzi
12 May 24  i+* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.2Jeff Liebermann
12 May 24  ii`- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1AMuzi
12 May 24  i`* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.2AMuzi
13 May 24  i `- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1AMuzi
12 May 24  +- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1AMuzi
12 May 24  `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.22Jeff Liebermann
12 May 24   `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.21AMuzi
12 May 24    `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.20Jeff Liebermann
12 May 24     +* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.4AMuzi
13 May 24     i`* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.3AMuzi
14 May 24     i `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.2Jeff Liebermann
15 May 24     i  `- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1Jeff Liebermann
13 May 24     `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.15Jeff Liebermann
14 May 24      +* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.2AMuzi
22 May 24      i`- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1Zen Cycle
15 May 24      +- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1Jeff Liebermann
27 May 24      `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.11Jeff Liebermann
27 May 24       `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.10AMuzi
2 Jun 24        `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.9Frank Krygowski
2 Jun 24         `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.8AMuzi
2 Jun 24          `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.7Frank Krygowski
2 Jun 24           `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.6AMuzi
2 Jun 24            `* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.5Frank Krygowski
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3 Jun 24             i`* Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.2Frank Krygowski
3 Jun 24             i `- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1Catrike Ryder
2 Jun 24             `- Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.1Catrike Ryder

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