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Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:Um... brave confident male roadies like the ladies in this video?ISTM anti-VC folks are two main camps. The larger one is "I gotta neverThat’s kinda the issue with it isn’t it, it reduces the cyclists to
ever inconvenience a motorist, so I gotta ride inches from the edge, and
ride on the sidewalk, and maybe stop if a car come. Oh, and traffic laws
don't apply to bikes."
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The second camp says "Riding a bike on any normal road is just too
dangerous. We need to spend fortunes on 'innovative' bike chutes so
anyone 8 to 80 can ride wherever they go. Then bike use will soar and
our cities will finally be saved!" (The second group is nuttier than the
first.)
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Meanwhile, people who are competent at VC techniques are riding where
they like with almost zero problems. They find it just works.
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essentially brave confident male roadies, which for example the Embankment
in London was historically.
Let alone larger faster roads which just don’t get used, as well it’sI'm not a Stravite, so I don't pay a lot of attention to heatmaps. But AFAIK Strava is most popular with the brave confident male roadies you seem to disparage. I doubt any of the women in the video I linked above would bother with Strava. They're not "striving" to get faster and faster, which is what that program's about. They're just riding.
frankly not a pleasant experience.
Strava Heatmap/metro shows the shocking amount of cycling in Youngstown or
rather lack of it, with only the parks and main strip having any apparent
numbers ie a pale blue. Rather than the white surrounding areas.
Numbers must be barely recordable, indeed numbers recorded are in the low
hundreds which is for a city of what half a million people is lamentable
low.
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