Re: Odd failure

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Sujet : Re: Odd failure
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 10. Jul 2024, 16:34:01
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On 7/10/2024 8:48 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/9/2024 9:23 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
At the start of yesterday's club ride, a good friend had taken her bike out of her hatchback as usual, slipped the front wheel into the forks as usual, and tightened the quick release. She said she heard a "ping." Then her quick release felt funny, in that it had lost it's "over center" clamp action.
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Several guys fussed with it, trying to determine what had gone wrong. The fundamental clamp action still worked, just not the over-center action. We pulled the skewer out and saw no visible problem.
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Ultimately, we clamped it, pounded as hard as we could on the top of the tire as she held up the front wheel, pushed as hard as possible side to side on the wheel, and proclaimed it rideable.
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She completed the 35+ mile ride just fine with the wheel still tight in the forks. But I suggested she follow me home so I could donate a spare skewer, plus take hers apart to see what might have happened in there.
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When I disassembled the skewer's lever action, here's what I found: The left or lever end of the skewer features a steel cylinder maybe 1/2" diameter and ~1/2" long, drilled with a transverse hole ~3/8" diameter. The circular eccentric surface of the lever operates inside that hole, applying leftward force to put the skewer in tension. (Most of us probably knew all that.)
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In her case, the metal between the side wall of the transverse hole and the outer surface of the 1/2" cylinder failed in tension, doubtlessly due to fatigue. That caused enough deformation to remove the over-center action. The other side wall held and provided clamping tension. I think it was important that the cylindrical end piece is a pretty close fit in the thick chrome "nut" in which the lever pivots, so serious bending action on the remaining metal wasn't possible.
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I'd never seen that sort of failure before, and neither had my bike mechanic buddies. I wonder if others here (especially Andrew) had.
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 I have, just not commonly.
 I think you said the bell cracked on one side. Those are hardenable steel and hardened, then chromed. The crack is probably parallel to the axle's centerline, yes?
If I understand you correctly: No, it wasn't the chromed external "bell" that failed. It was the skewer itself, within the bell. But not the small diameter shaft; instead, the larger diameter integral end of the skewer.
Here, I just tried for a photo:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16972296@N08/53846893247/in/dateposted-public/
 Speaking of failure, yesterday I replaced a left arm on a 1993 Campagnolo equipped Bianchi which was otherwise well maintained with plenty of miles:
 http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/failfcmi.jpg
 It split on the outside corner, parallel to the BB axis. I cut a slice as opposite as possible to open the crank and show the metal's grain.  It made noise but didn't fall off the spindle.
I love and ride old bicycles, but I wonder how many components are approaching their fatigue life.
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- Frank Krygowski

Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Jul 24 * Odd failure12Frank Krygowski
10 Jul 24 +* Re: Odd failure10AMuzi
10 Jul 24 i+* Re: Odd failure3Zen Cycle
10 Jul 24 ii`* Re: Odd failure2AMuzi
10 Jul 24 ii `- Re: Odd failure1Zen Cycle
10 Jul 24 i`* Re: Odd failure6Frank Krygowski
10 Jul 24 i +- Re: Odd failure1AMuzi
10 Jul 24 i +* Re: Odd failure3AMuzi
11 Jul 24 i i`* Re: Odd failure2Frank Krygowski
11 Jul 24 i i `- Re: Odd failure1AMuzi
10 Jul 24 i `- Re: Odd failure1Frank Krygowski
10 Jul 24 `- Re: Odd failure1Zen Cycle

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