Re: New Bike Path

On 7/15/2024 12:28 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:

Am 13.07.2024 um 17:08 schrieb Catrike Ryder:

On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 10:47:26 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>

On 7/13/2024 8:03 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 7/12/2024 5:50 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:

>
>
At the place where you see the van leaving the fuel station, I have
twice witnessed exactly the same accident: a car from the roundabout
wanted to enter the fuel station and did not look for cyclists coming
"the wrong direction" hit a cyclist at low speed.

>
IMHO that's at/near the top of the list of the problems with bike
lanes/paths parallel to the roadway - Drivers looking out for on-coming
traffic don't look the other way for the path users

>
Exactly.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k6-AI_X1qE

>
If you're afraid to ride there, It's OK with me. I won't try to change
your mind.

>
I'm not afraid to ride myself there but I'm afraid to send an
unexperienced cyclist on those routes.
>

Frank has posted that clip a few times I believe, it would seem that they
have taken a magic paint cycle lane and added some wands, which is cheap
and doing something, ie it was a crap and potentially hazardous cycleway
before, random cones hasn’t improved this!
 Ie that sort of stuff is box ticking exercise, segregation can and will
work but it does need to be planned and so on, this is low bar stuff.

The problem goes beyond box ticking. At least in the context of intersecting streets and driveways, a facility that sends cyclists wrong-way is endangering cyclists, especially the less knowledgeable ones. Again, that facility's rate of car-bike crashes increased over eleven times.
The problem is there are never ending cries for "innovation" AKA bike facilities that violate existing rules of the road. Those making money from design and installation of that stuff actually formed an organization to lobby for the "Do whatever pops into your mind" school of design. And they produce a constant stream of articles urging that cyclists lobby for this nonsense, claiming you can't be safe without it.
There are many cyclists, including some here, ignorant enough to think this crap is just fine.
--
- Frank Krygowski