Re: New Bike Path

On 7/16/2024 12:15 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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Exactly.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k6-AI_X1qE

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The problem goes beyond box ticking. At least in the context of
intersecting streets and driveways, a facility that sends cyclists
wrong-way is endangering cyclists, especially the less knowledgeable
ones. Again, that facility's rate of car-bike crashes increased over
eleven times.

 Even for something as poor as that, cycle lane thats sounds suspect much
like 80% reduction in deaths with Helmets, Vincent Stops attempted some
misleading or simply made up story regarding Chiswick High road as he’s
nothing but consistent!
 But an increase that much is rather suspect...

The figures come from a report on the facility presented by an Ohio Department of Transportation engineer. The slides used in the report used to be available on the ODOT website, but have since been taken down. I've saved a PDF of the slides, and I'll try later to put it up on Google Drive or something similar.
The salient point: "Bicycle Crashes
* 2011 -2014 - 6 Total Crashes, 1 Fatal, 5 Non-fatal
* 2016-2017 (through September 15) - 24 Total Crashes
The facility opened November, 2015. There's a graph detailing the crashes by month. It includes car and pedestrian crashes, but I'm concentrating on bicyclists.
Anyway: Prior, 6 car-bike crashes in four years. After, 24 car-bike crashes in about 20 months.
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety released a paper a couple years ago that also documented a more than tenfold increase in car-bike crashes from a similar facility.

The problem is there are never ending cries for "innovation" AKA bike
facilities that violate existing rules of the road....
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What violations?

Direction of travel, obviously!

One you’ve linked and even the one in Youngstown I’ve agreed is sub
standard ie crap that doesn’t mean that incant see that in some places it
works and works well though, tends to only work if folks commit to it ie
spend time designing it and so on, not just dumping some random wands and
what not along side a painted bike lane which mostly doesn’t work.

I'm just reporting on what actually happens, not what would happen in some ideal world.
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- Frank Krygowski