Re: guns again.

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Sujet : Re: guns again.
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 17. Jul 2024, 17:22:17
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On 7/17/2024 10:03 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/17/2024 9:38 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/16/2024 8:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/16/2024 8:48 PM, John B. wrote:
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Yet more proof that Frankie doesn't know what he is talking about. A
shotgun fires a spray of pellets and certainly wouldn't be the best
choice in a case where the "Bad Guys" are close to the victims as
seems very likely in the above reference.
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Argue with Andrew about that. He was the one who originally posted that a shotgun would be much better for home defense than an AR.
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Beyond that, I disagree with you on the applicability of a shotgun to these specific cases. But again, I'll let Andrew explain, if he cares to.
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As with concurrent discussions, 'optimal', 'adequate' and 'best' are inherently subjective.
 Sorry, I have to disagree with that idea, at least in general.
 There are issues like, hairstyles, portrait paintings, pop music, car colors etc. where judgments are very subjective. People like what they like.
 There are other issues like treatment of disease, bike maintenance techniques, and (I submit) home defense, where it is or should be possible to gather real world data and determine relative effectiveness.
 
You don't know what you don't know. Opinion notwithstanding.
You mention disease treatment.  If a guy has a prostate cancer diagnosis, there are widely divergent treatments available, each with their own adherents and detractors based on deleterious side effects, expense, efficacy etc. Not doing anything whatsoever can often get another twenty years before dying of something else. Everyone disagrees, including the various experts, and no one is wrong about their opinion (based on their own weighting of some or all criteria).
Regarding bicycle maintenance, we once thought (and I taught in a class for 25 years) that rebuilding bearing assemblies annually, using cheap domestic labor to extend the life of our expensive imported equipment, was prudent.  Modern cyclists often consider a new wheel at failure (typically $60~$90) is preferred over regular $40~$50 rebuilds.  People disagree, including experts. The choice is more clear with crap (XMart BSO) and with professional level gear but for most cyclists it's a confusingly grey area.
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Andrew Muzi
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