Re: Some bicycle paths...

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De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 25. Jul 2024, 15:11:27
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On 7/25/2024 6:17 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:59:58 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 
The guns I argue against are absolutely designed to kill people.
 No more than any other gun, and handguns kill far more people than the
guns you argue against.
 
I'm
saying their detriments to society greatly outweigh their non-existent
practical benefits.
 Apparently, nobody cares what you're saying.
 
I note that nobody here has yet posted a practical
benefit for such guns in civilian hands. And I note that you, John,
apparently do not own an AR-style rifle. That means you judge the
detriments of owning an AR-style rifle outweigh any practical benefits.
 Krygowski needs to make every argument personal. That's so he can
attack the person rather than the issue.
 
And you're doing just fine without one.
 Most people are doing fine without a bicycle, too, yet they probably
wouldn't argue against doing away with them.
Well, people do have their opinions. Which is fine so far as it goes.  Actual data, however, is at odds with much of popular opinion:
https://ammo.com/articles/gun-death-statistics-by-caliber
Highest sales:crime ratio brand is Glock, who do not sell rifles at all*, not even the deadly lead-spewing AR-15 platform.
Largest death count by caliber is 9mm (half of injury, 65% of deaths) and .223 are negligible (~1%).
Which won't do anything about the wide gap between ideology and reality.
*Prototype testing is in progress with British Rangers.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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19 Jul 24 * Some bicycle paths...179AMuzi
19 Jul 24 +* Re: Some bicycle paths...19John B.
19 Jul 24 i+* Re: Some bicycle paths...17AMuzi
19 Jul 24 ii+* Re: Some bicycle paths...13Frank Krygowski
19 Jul 24 iii`* Re: Some bicycle paths...12AMuzi
19 Jul 24 iii +* Re: Some bicycle paths...2Frank Krygowski
19 Jul 24 iii i`- Re: Some bicycle paths...1Catrike Ryder
19 Jul 24 iii `* Re: Some bicycle paths...9Zen Cycle
19 Jul 24 iii  `* Re: Some bicycle paths...8AMuzi
19 Jul 24 iii   `* Re: Some bicycle paths...7Frank Krygowski
19 Jul 24 iii    `* Re: Some bicycle paths...6Catrike Ryder
19 Jul 24 iii     `* Re: Some bicycle paths...5AMuzi
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20 Jul 24 iii      `* Re: Some bicycle paths...3Frank Krygowski
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25 Jul 24     i     i  `* Re: Some bicycle paths...135Frank Krygowski
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26 Jul 24     i     i   iiiii        `* Re: Some bicycle paths...40AMuzi
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