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Sujet : Re: Some bicycle paths...
De : funkmasterxx (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (zen cycle)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 28. Jul 2024, 17:57:09
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On 7/28/2024 10:15 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/28/2024 6:25 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 7/27/2024 11:14 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/27/2024 9:09 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 07:54:47 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 7/27/2024 6:31 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 07:19:15 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On 7/26/2024 3:09 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/26/2024 1:49 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/26/2024 9:14 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/25/2024 9:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/25/2024 3:27 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/25/2024 1:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
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Purposely irritating others is fun to people who are childish and
obnoxious.
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And yet, autos with political candidate stickers are common.
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Interesting viewpoint. So expressing approval for a candidate in an
election is childish and obnoxious? Really?
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I see many more right wing examples than left wing examples. And
when it comes to obscene examples, it's not even close.
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"> I see many more right wing examples"
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That's because you take offense at them and blithely disregard the
left wing stickers. Perfectly normal response BTW, nothing wrong with
that but see it as it is.
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I know what confirmation bias is, thank you. I suppose this fine side
point could be settled by actual counts. You know, data.
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But the fundamental point is that candidate stickers are not
necessarily intended to irritate others, as you implied. Most are
intended to express support for a candidate, just as similar ones
saying "Vote for the [police, or fire, school or library] levy."
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And they've been ruled a first amendment right.
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Excellent analysis.
Now just extend your argument one Amendment further...
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ok. how about SCOTUS has repeated ruled the right to free speech is not
absolute. Let's extend that to the 2nd amendment.
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Already has been, Dummy, although there's often political based
inhibitions to execute the laws, as with the Hunter Biden case. Anyone
else lying on the federal background check would have been arrested
and tried iimmediately, and rightly so.
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As they regularly discover:
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https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/newport-news/mother-of-6-year-old-school-shooter-awaits-sentencing-could-serve-2-years-max-in-federal-prison/
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"Deja Taylor has been sentenced to 21 months in prison after
previously pleading guilty to federal charges of using drugs
while having a gun and lying about her drug use when
purchasing the weapon."
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https://www.tampafp.com/14-year-old-charged-with-murder-father-arrested-in-st-petersburg-shooting/
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Well, felon in possession, armed violence and so on are just every day all day. In Tampa they are charged, in Chicago they are not. meh.
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The link I cited is for a woman charged with lying on her Form 4473 , convicted and sentenced to prison, under the exact same circumstances as Mr Biden The Lesser. Anyone familiar knows the form explicitly warns that attesting to false information on the form is a felony.
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The laws treats the situation differently when the weapon in question is used in a shooting, especially when the gun is taken by a minor who shouldn't have had access to it to begin with. Bidens weapon was never used in a shooting.
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If neither of those cases you linked resulted in a shooting, they would have reached a plea deal, exactly like they did in the Biden case initially.
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BTW, if you people advocating for unfettered firearm access had your way, there would be no recourse for holding the parents responsible.
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 You conflated two crimes.  She also was separately (State) tried, convicted and sentenced for child abuse in allowing access to a minor in her charge in addition to the Federal charges.
fer fucks sake Andrew, really? HAve you not had your coffee yet?
You made the point that two people who allowed their minor children access to guns were also convicted of lying on the federal form, which is exactly the crime that Biden was convicted of. My point was that lying on the federal form is usually met with a plea deal, except in the case where the gun was used illegally.
There's absolutely no conflation there.

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19 Jul 24 iii    `* Re: Some bicycle paths...6Catrike Ryder
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