Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Fine Tuning Shifting

On 8/16/2024 4:48 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Fri Aug 16 14:41:24 2024 Zen Cycle  wrote:

On 8/16/2024 10:08 AM, cyclintom wrote:

On Fri Aug 16 00:03:44 2024 Frank Krygowski  wrote:

On 8/15/2024 6:22 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Thu Aug 15 14:06:49 2024 AMuzi  wrote:

On 8/15/2024 1:27 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Thu Aug 15 13:12:13 2024 Zen Cycle  wrote:

On 8/15/2024 12:34 PM, cyclintom wrote:

     That Flunky whose statements have been shown as a fake on a video I referenced before

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You wrote that there was a video you saw. You didn't give a link to it.
That's as valid as me referencing the bodycam footage of your drunk
driving arrest.
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(you HAVE to cut power to shift old friction shifting freewheel bikes

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I've stated repeatedly it's recommended that you reduce power or 'soft
pedal'. You're the one that wrote "stop pedaling".
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because they iused straight cut gears

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no, dumbass, that isn't why. You soft pedal to reduce the load on the
chain as it transitions. PLacing too high of a load at the wrong moment
can cause the chain to skip or twist, both of which can cause breakage.
It's less of an issue with modern drive trains because the distance the
chain moves during the transition is smaller.
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but Flunky has to lie about every thing he says

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You still haven't proven anything I've ever written in this forum to be
a lie. Just because you say it, doesn't make it so. You have zero
credibility on any issue.
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Liebermann has never worked above the level of te3chnician and not a good one either. He is broke abnd couldn't get a job in the hottest job market in the entire world. Flunky is working at the absolute lowest level of EE - a fucking paper shuffler and pretends to know something about engineering

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How's that link to any reference showing PWM is used to test cable
coming along?
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I disagree with Andrew on a few points and he even admitted that shift wires have changed quite a bit over the years.

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Yet he has stated unequivocally that shift cable do not stretch, they seat.
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I have noted that there is a substantial difference in the Shimano and the Campagnilo cables

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Not really. If you know what you're doing they're pretty much
interchangable.
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and Krygowski who has absolute NO experience with them

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lol...Frank has NO experience with shifter cables. That's about as
likely as your stock fund being recession-proof
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tells you that he "fixed" the shifting on a friends bike by twisting the adjustment screw without any knowledge of previous work done on it.

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I have as well, it doesn't take much to diagnose a shifting issue down
to the barrel adjuster needing a tweak. As long as it was set up
correctly initially, any previous work isn't really relevant.
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Krygowski perhaps you can tell us everything you know about 11 and 12 speed systems? Make it as clear as if you were teaching your students so that we can see the sort of teaching you believed you were accomplishing.
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As a note - 30 years ago, the AVERAGE grade of college students was a C. Today thanks to people like Krygowski the AVERAGE grade of a student is an A-.

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ATTENTION: TOM KUNICH AMAZING FACT #3,724: "30 years ago, the AVERAGE
grade of college students was a C. Today....the AVERAGE grade of a
student is an A-"
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This is across the entire spectrum of public colleges.

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Got a link to that, sparky?
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Your doctor might very well have graduated from a medical school with an A. I know that the engineers I ended up supervising

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You were never in a supervisory role.
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were incompetent on the lowest level. I personally did HALF of the design and more than half of the programming than 3 design engineers and 3 programmers. Due to this Silicon Valley is now GONE.
The bed of the highest developement and invention has been entirely destroyed not only by utter incompetence of public college teaching staff, but even Stanford and other supposedly high ranking colleges.

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riiiight, no high tech in Silicon Valley at all any more!
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Krygowski is part of the communist idiology who believes that 20 wrongs make a right. That one correct idea is worthless without people that don't understand it supporting it. Frank, if you ever meet me I strongly advise you to not say to my face what you're so willing to say proected by distance.

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Or what, tommy? Tell us exactly what Frank (or anyone) risks by calling
you an idiot to your face.
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Look at all of the time and money Liebermann wasted going to college to avoid the draft without learning the first thing about engineering! Since he was a coward and afraid that they would draft him he could have simply joined the National Guard. He would have loved that since when they are called up he would have been able to order people about. It is no surprise that Liebermann's family disowned him.

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Funny seeing a man who remarried the woman that stole all his money
criticizing other peoples familial relationships
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So now you call if "soft pedalling" and somehow that is different from the pause that you make when you shift straight cut gears. We are seeing huge pileups that were not seen in the days of friction shifted freewheels because of the uneven acceleration of friction shifting. But don't worry, everyone is seeing through you.

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I run a six chain on a six freewheel (vintage straight
teeth. Yes I have spare sprockets) with Campagnolo 1013
friction levers. I do shift under light load but never pause
or even stop to shift. That's ridiculous in any derailleur
system which by its nature shunts the flow of chain. No flow
= no shift.
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A gearbox is very different. I do indeed pause briefly to
shift my Sturmey three speed, else the clutch cannot slide
to the next position.
-- Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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You and Flunky are not talking about shifting under power as you woujld do in racing. That is a sure-fire way to break a chain. Perhaos I have a different view since until this year I ALWAYS accekerated at or very near maximum. After I got up to the appropriate speed for the locale I would back way off and shift to a higher gear and simply pedal along.

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"I ALWAYS accekerated at or very near maximum" makes no sense, even if
you correct the spelling. No sane person rides that way.
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Krygowski, any normal person would be ashamed to say the things you do.

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Any normal person would be embarrassed to scold someone for calling out
their spelling mistakes when the vast majority of text UIs have spell
checkers.
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In one sentence you complain about my spelling and the way that nearly everyone rides.

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Is it really your contention that every rider always accelerates at or
near maximum?
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Maybe we should set up a poll here to see who actually does that?
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Or maybe tommy _did_ mean to type 'accekerated', and 'accekerated' has
some other meaning in tommys alternate universe.
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   Tell me Ms. Bullshit, what grade did you get in the spelling bee in
the third grade. It must have been an A and you're so proud of that that
you cannot let anyone else forget it. No wonder you were fired as a
plant engineer. You really found your calling as a teacher able to mark
a perfect paper down because it transposed an l and a k which are right
next to each other on a keyboard.

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Wait - you better check that entire "rant" for typos. It might put you in the superior position you believe you deserve.

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Or, you could just run spellcheck before you send a message and save
yourself the embarrassment.
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 Poor little Flunky doesn't have any friends so he thinks he can make them from idiots by agreeing with them.

Not true, I never agree with you, and you're the biggest idiot here.

He claims to be a racer and doesn't accelerte up to speed from a stop.

I don't accelerate at maximum effort from every stop. No one does that, except apparently you. Racers don't do that unless the conditions call for it.

Hey Flunky, are you sure that you're not really a Car 4?

No, I'm not a car 4 (whatever that is). I'm not a cat 4 either.

Sounds that you have an awful lot to learn.

says the idiot that admitted he speed away from a cat 5 field at max effort from the start, then got caught, dropped, and DNFd.

Until this year I always used to beat all of the cars across intersections.

Riding that way
a) proves nothing
b) is really stupid
c) leads to early exhaustion - as you single failed racing experience proved
d) likely isn't even true