Re: cyclists attack auto driver

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Sujet : Re: cyclists attack auto driver
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Date : 18. Aug 2024, 15:02:50
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On 8/17/2024 11:37 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:19:14 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 
On 8/16/2024 8:08 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/16/2024 3:59 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>
Krygowski has yet to comprehend the simple fact that
benefits and
detriments are subjective.
>
Benefits and detriments can very often be measured. The
benefits of bicycling have been measured in terms of
increased health, reduced health care costs, years of life
saved, pollution reduced, etc. etc. I've seen and filed at
least five studies that have done that, each one showing
that the benefits of bicycling far outweigh its tiny risks.
>
The detriments of American gun craziness can also be
measured. As just one example, huge numbers of schools now
hire full time security guards in case some whacko with an
AR attempts to enter the building. The buildings themselves
are now often "hardened," with various weapon detecting and
weapon resisting technologies. That was never the case until
the current gun mania came into fashion; and taxpayers pick
up the bill for that extra security - as they do for
advanced protective equipment for most policing. So we all
pay for the gun fetishists fantasy hobby.
>
It would make sense to levy a massive tax on every gun with,
say, more than 6 rounds capacity, to pay for the security
expenses they generate. But of course, the "Gotta have a big
gun" crew is also the "No new taxes" crew. They want others
to pay for their play toys' consequences.
>
>
p.s.
You cannot tax an enumerated right. *example = poll tax)
This is once again in the courts.
 But as I've mentioned  a number of times my family has had guns for at
least 4 generations, as close as I can calculate 300 years or so, and
never shot anyone. Why does Frankie want to penalize us?
No one said anything about taking away traditional hunting rifles and shotguns.

 But, perhaps more germane is the current view is that  many, perhaps
most, school shootings are "copy cat" acts  and that the News and
others that publicizing these acts may be, at least in part,
responsible for these events.

 

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12 Aug 24 * cyclists attack auto driver569AMuzi
13 Aug 24 +* Re: cyclists attack auto driver567John B.
13 Aug 24 i+* Re: cyclists attack auto driver565Frank Krygowski
13 Aug 24 ii`* Re: cyclists attack auto driver564Catrike Ryder
13 Aug 24 ii `* Re: cyclists attack auto driver563Frank Krygowski
13 Aug 24 ii  `* Re: cyclists attack auto driver562Catrike Ryder
14 Aug 24 ii   +* Re: cyclists attack auto driver5John B.
15 Aug 24 ii   i`* Re: cyclists attack auto driver4zen cycle
15 Aug 24 ii   i `* Re: cyclists attack auto driver3Frank Krygowski
15 Aug 24 ii   i  `* Re: cyclists attack auto driver2Catrike Ryder
15 Aug 24 ii   i   `- Re: cyclists attack auto driver1Zen Cycle
14 Aug 24 ii   `* Re: cyclists attack auto driver556Frank Krygowski
14 Aug 24 ii    `* Re: cyclists attack auto driver555Catrike Ryder
14 Aug 24 ii     +* Re: cyclists attack auto driver553John B.
14 Aug 24 ii     i+- Re: cyclists attack auto driver1John B.
14 Aug 24 ii     i+- Re: cyclists attack auto driver1Catrike Ryder
14 Aug 24 ii     i`* Re: cyclists attack auto driver550Frank Krygowski
14 Aug 24 ii     i `* Re: cyclists attack auto driver549Catrike Ryder
15 Aug 24 ii     i  +* Re: cyclists attack auto driver17Frank Krygowski
15 Aug 24 ii     i  i`* Re: cyclists attack auto driver16Catrike Ryder
15 Aug 24 ii     i  i +* Re: cyclists attack auto driver8John B.
15 Aug 24 ii     i  i i+* Re: cyclists attack auto driver6Catrike Ryder
15 Aug 24 ii     i  i ii`* Re: cyclists attack auto driver5Zen Cycle
15 Aug 24 ii     i  i ii `* Re: cyclists attack auto driver4Frank Krygowski
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15 Aug 24 ii     i  i i `* Re: cyclists attack auto driver2Catrike Ryder
16 Aug 24 ii     i  i i  `- Re: cyclists attack auto driver1Zen Cycle
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