Re: cyclists attack auto driver

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Sujet : Re: cyclists attack auto driver
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 20. Aug 2024, 04:05:15
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On 8/19/2024 8:50 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 11:46:24 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
 
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 11:35:34 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
On 8/19/2024 6:27 AM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 03:42:14 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>
On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 20:41:35 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
On 8/18/2024 4:19 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:38:26 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
On 8/17/2024 11:37 PM, John B. wrote:
>
But as I've mentioned  a number of times my family has had guns for at
least 4 generations, as close as I can calculate 300 years or so, and
never shot anyone. Why does Frankie want to penalize us?
>
My bet is that your family had guns for hunting and pest control. My bet
is also that your family never owned a gun that could fire more than,
say, six rounds in a minute. After all, that capability is essentially
useless for almost all hunting. But it is "useful" if you intend to kill
a roomful of kids, or church attendees. That is the gun style's
significant detriment.
>
As you _should_ be able to remember, I'm firmly in favor of hunting.
>
That's nonsense. My dad's old Winchester model 69 (1930s) had an eight
round mag. My Colt Woodsman had a ten round mag. That didn't count the
one in the pipe. Counting that, put all the Wichester model 94s at 7
rds.
>
I know those guns exist.
>
No you don't. You never heard of them until I mentioned them.
>
I'm betting John's family didn't have them.
>
You obviously have no idea how many hunters have had a Winchester 94.
I had one years ago. The one I had was a carbine and only had a 6 rd
mag. The model 94 rifle produced today has an 8 rd mag.  The 94 stands
for 1894, by the way.
>
And
while I may be wrong, it's certain that the earliest family members he
bragged about did not have them, but probably still hunted successfully.
A competent hunter doesn't need even six quick shots.
>
>
<LOL>  As if you'd know anything about competent hunting.
>
>
I really can't figure where Frankie is gets his ideas and I can only
assume that like Tom, just makes then up.
>
   Above he writes, "also that your family never owned a gun that could
fire more than,  say, six rounds in a minute."
>
As I've said a number of times my father had a hunting rifle built on
a Springfield army rifle base. 5 round magazine and one up the spout
is 6 and I could, with no problems at all fire 6 rounds in a minute
and if you want to talk about pistols I'm sure that you can fire your
Colt Woodman even faster.
>
I could probably get all 11 rds off in a couple of seconds, but I
don't think I ever tried. Walking through the gardens, pastures and
cornfields shooting gophers, it was handy not having to stop and
reload.
>
Ah, John! First, please note that I said "MORE than 6 rounds in a
minute." You gave _one_ example of _one_ gun your father had, but it did
not shoot _more_ than 6 in a minute. So, thanks for confirming my guess!
>
And as I said, that capability is essentially useless for hunting. I'm
betting you (or your father) never blasted six quick shots at an animal
while hunting with that rifle.
>
Krygowski dishonest strawman alert.
>
You could, of course, tell us some of your hunting tales, and let us
know details of how you actually _used_ those guns. But I suspect you
won't, because they'll describe one or two careful shots, not a rapid
blast of shooting.
>
Another Krygowski dishonest strawman alert.
 Note that Frankie says "You gave _one_ example of _one_ gun your
father had, but it did not shoot _more_ than 6 in a minute."
 While I actually wrote, "I could, with no problems at all fire 6
rounds in a minute".
Good grief. Do you not understand the meaning of "more than"? That was the phrase I used.

 And then he goes on to ignore the British army reference...
Because I was talking about the guns _your family_ owned. How can you be so confused about the matter under discussion? And again, firing that many rounds that fast is useless in any normal hunting situation.
Since you're talking about your family's hunting gun use, why not tell us how many times you shot six rounds within a minute to kill game?
--
- Frank Krygowski

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