Sujet : Re: cyclists attack auto driver
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 20. Aug 2024, 18:19:38
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On 8/20/2024 12:59 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 12:33:06 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:54:16 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 8/20/2024 10:38 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:25:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 8/20/2024 8:49 AM, AMuzi wrote:
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The formal education racket is not for everyone, but education is nearly
free, requiring only time, diligence and access to a few used book stores.
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Sorry, Andrew, that's true only for the lowest definition of "education."
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In one of the first engineering classes I took, the teacher said
something like "Look at the guys standing to your left and right. They
are probably not going to make it through this curriculum. Only about
ten percent of the men who start this program manage to complete it."
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And he was right. It's very foolish to believe that everyone is equally
intelligent, and that everyone can succeed if they just try really hard.
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I certainly recall students who were diligent, studied hard, got special
help, spent tons of time on their work and still failed. I felt sorry
for them, but if they were not up to standards, they did not pass.
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Education is a tool. It's what one does with the education that
counts, not the piece of fancy paper they hang on the wall and brag
about.
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While it's true that autodidacts often suffer gaps of
education, it's also true that graduates include those who
tested well with little post college retention and also
those of extremely narrow education.
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Neither is a perfect solution for everyone.
...and many with a near, or even a totallly worthless degree.
https://www.universities.com/resources/most-useless-degrees
Such lists are useful for avoiding professions that don't pay well.
However, they are often interpreted as suggesting one should not take
any classes in the various listed "useless degree" fields. While I
majored in Electrical and Electronic Engineering, the next most USEFUL
classes I took were (in order starting with most useful):
- Economics
- Psychology
- Tractor driving and mechanics
- Computer programming
- Philosophy
None of these classes would have been useful had I not concentrated on
my chosen profession. For example, I know engineers who dabble in
philosophy, but no psychologists or economists who know anything about
engineering.
:-) When my wife returned to college, she and I took a Music Appreciation course together. On the advice of a musician friend, we took the more advanced version intended for music majors, not the General Education version.
Anyway: The professor knew of my department. Several times, he make some slightly disparaging cracks about a certain "engineer" who became a music major.
I eventually pointed out to him (diplomatically) that the guy he called an "engineer" was a guy who had actually dropped out of engineering. And I also pointed out that I was voluntarily taking a course in his program. He would never be able to take a course in mine.
BTW, despite that last comment of mine, we still get along just fine. I have several friends among Music faculty.
-- - Frank Krygowski