Re: cyclists attack auto driver

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Sujet : Re: cyclists attack auto driver
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 22. Aug 2024, 14:47:41
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On 8/21/2024 8:49 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/21/2024 4:11 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:16:18 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
ISTM that I'm betting I'll not need a gun. Over thousands and thousands
of trips, I've always been proven right.
>
Our Florida tricycle rider is, in effect, betting that he's going to
someday need a gun.
>
<sigh> ...Strawman.  A bet involves an ante or a stake. Something that
you lose if you lose the bet.
 You've already lost. You spent money to buy the gun you were afraid you needed for "protection." That was the main part of your "stake," and that money is gone. You also spent time building your special Quick Draw McGraw holster down by your crotch. That time is gone. At least, since your riding is limited to almost perfectly flat bike paths, you don't lose much due to the weight of the gun.
 
>
Sounds like in at least hundreds of trips, he's been
consistently proven wrong.
>
Does the fact that we've never needed the window break tools we carry
in both vehicles prove that it's wrong to carry them?
 Seriously?? You bought tools to break your car's windows if you're trapped inside?  Gawd! How paranoid!
 
But still, he's afraid.
>
That's from the guy that insists that my riding on bidirectional
sidepaths is dangerous and that my having a gun in my home (I have
four) puts me in danger of being shot.
 And I've provided clear documentation of the data showing that those with guns in the home are more likely to be shot (although in your case, data shows your wife is more at risk); and data showing that bidirectional bike paths are much more dangerous for the wrong-way cyclists entering intersections.
 But I suppose a person has to have actual education in science to understand such data...
 
...And he says that I'm fearful.
 You obviously are. Nobody else here has shared your fears.
 
I can't speak to fear, actual or hysterically applied, but others here understand and respect his decision as within reasonable limits and based on his experience, opinion and evaluation of his own situation.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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