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On 9/7/2024 9:47 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:Of course. IOW, huge pickups are fashionable now. Fashion is weird and powerful.On 9/7/2024 9:03 PM, John B. wrote:That's well composed and expresses nicely why a large pickup truck has little to any advantage or benefit _for you_.On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:36:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski>
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On 9/7/2024 11:10 AM, AMuzi wrote:>On 9/7/2024 10:04 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:>>>
Auto crash fatalities are a regrettable side effect of the use of cars
for transportation. And cars are so beneficial for transportation that
American society would cease to function if cars could not be used.
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Mass murders in schools are a regrettable side effect of the worship
of guns, especially AR-style rifles, the weapon of choice for such
murders. And I'll note that you have _still_ never managed to state a
practical societal benefit of ARs in public possession.
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Unlike cars, if ARs could not be used, America would be better off by
far. Just the tax savings from not having to "harden" public schools
would be worth the change.
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Or to summarize yet again: Benefits vs. detriments, John! A concept
that absolutely baffles you!
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By that logic, are fatal car crashes by Ford Fiesta or Prius drivers
less tragic than those by scary black pickups?
We could certainly talk about advantages vs. disadvantages of huge
pickup trucks and other similar vehicles. Books have been written on
that topic.
Like
https://www.truckaddons.com/pros-and-cons-of-owning-a-pickup/
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Notice I provide a reference, you don't.
https://slate.com/business/2022/02/suvs-pickups-heavy-huge- deadly- dont-buy-em.html
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or https://reason.com/2024/02/02/why-are-pickup-trucks- ridiculously- huge-blame-government/
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"... critics aren't entirely wrong to point out the ill effects of mega-truck proliferation—or the oddity of using a 6,500-pound, 22- foot-long vehicle mainly as a grocery- getter. Pedestrian deaths have reached 40-year highs and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety research shows that as trucks and SUVs have gotten taller and heavier, they likewise have posed greater risks to those outside the vehicle."
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I have no problem with compact pickup trucks, just as I have no problem with what were always considered normal and legitimate hunting rifles. But bloated, oversized modern pickup trucks are a close parallel to AR-style guns. They are bought mostly to raise the owners' testosterone level, by providing capabilities that are essentially never needed. And the detriments are externalities, imposed on others who get none of the minuscule benefits.
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They do remain the #1 and #2 most popular vehicle in US sales year after year* and add significant sustaining profit to the auto industry ...
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