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On 9/11/2024 4:42 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:Understood. Your near-default point is "Everyone's decision is correct."On 9/11/2024 5:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:And all the others inbetween who may very rarely ride offroad without ambient streetlights but want the capacity, people who use the wondrous little things for car repair and the like (me, just not on my bicycle), people who just want 'the best one' and yes some amount of the Veblen effect.On 9/11/2024 3:49 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:>On 9/11/2024 3:37 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:>Am Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:23:22 GMT schrieb Roger Merriman>
<roger@sarlet.com>:
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>There is also the fact I like lights that can kick out more oomph that a>
Dynamo can do, and I’m not wild on such cut off beams, while my commute
light has a low wide beam on low, ie fine around town and so on, with the
High Beam to give a bit more punch in the woods and so on.
In my experience, a modern, StVZO-conforming LED based headlight is more
than good enough for riding in city traffic. More power usually only
serves to blind other cyclists and still can't compete with car
headlights. Riding in the woods and in the dark, on the other hand, is
better done using a weaker, but wider beam.
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The only reasonable need I see for more powerful headlights is when
driving on unlit rural roads. Here you need a powerful low beam and
sometimes also a high beam.
I agree woods riding is different than road riding. But I've done lots of unlit road riding with dyno lights and no problems. So have countless randonneurs.
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Night vision varies, I'm sure; but I believe the general desire for more and more and more lumens is caused by the same mechanism the triggers the desire for more and more rear cogs, less and less bike weight, bigger and bigger pickup trucks, etc. After a while, people are chasing advertising copy or quickly diminishing returns.
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You've repeated that for years, implying that unlike mere mortals you are magically immune to the evil spell of marketers. OK, that could be true.
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Or maybe other people actually ride offroad and actually need brighter lights than you.
Read again, Andrew. See where I said "I agree woods riding is different than road riding"?
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As with most consumer decisions, sorting out motive is a fool's errand as people sincerely misstate motive as they sometimes don't have any conscious logical process.
Date | Sujet | # | Auteur | |
10 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 120 | Frank Krygowski | |
10 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 118 | Frank Krygowski | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 117 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 116 | Frank Krygowski | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 111 | AMuzi | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 110 | Frank Krygowski | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 109 | AMuzi | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 108 | Frank Krygowski | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 105 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 102 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | zen cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 99 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 98 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 43 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 42 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 37 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 36 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 34 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 32 | Zen Cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 31 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 4 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | John B. | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 26 | Zen Cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 25 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 23 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 21 | John B. | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 20 | Frank Krygowski | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 19 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 18 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 17 | zen cycle | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 16 | Jeff Liebermann | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 10 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 9 | Jeff Liebermann | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Jeff Liebermann | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Jeff Liebermann | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 4 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | John B. | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | zen cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Zen Cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 54 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 39 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Frank Krygowski | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 36 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 4 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 31 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 30 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 4 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | zen cycle | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 23 | AMuzi | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 21 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 5 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 3 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | zen cycle | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | zen cycle | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 15 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 10 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | AMuzi | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 6 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 5 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 4 | AMuzi | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | AMuzi | |
25 Sep07:26 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 3 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 14 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi |
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