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On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 13:04:05 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:I have good friends, a married couple, who are worried about the future of the U.S. and are seriously thinking about retiring elsewhere. I'll note that they really are very, very fearful folks, to the point of wearing anti-COVID masks until quite recently.
On 9/15/2024 11:51 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:At my age, leaving the US for a different country is probably not aOn Sun, 15 Sep 2024 11:07:24 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:>
>As Mr Reagan noted well, where if not here shall we go?>
His quote was: "If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape
to. This is the last stand on earth."
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Over the last few years, Santa Cruz County and California in general,
have had it's shares of storms and wildfires. One result is that no
insurance company will write new homeowners policies in California.
The recent fires will probably make the insurance situation worse.
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When we get together for various events, moving elsewhere is a common
topic of conversation. There have been many who suggested that it
might be best to sell their homes and move elsewhere. So far, one
family has moved to somewhere in Idaho, while another has moved to
Costa Rica. A few, including me, have done some preliminary research
into where to move. I've been watching YouTube videos in the style of
"Ten best places to live in [select a state]". These are interesting
but not very useful. Others have done similar research. In general,
the best places to live are already saturated with immigrants or have
undesirable environmental hazards (tornados, hurricanes, floods, snow,
taxes etc). The consensus seems to be that the potential benefits of
moving do not compensate for the risks.
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"How Many People Are Leaving California (2024)"
<https://www.rubyhome.com/blog/leaving-california/>
"Texas was the biggest winner of California outmigration... Texas
also was the state from which the most people moved to California."
102,000 Calif -> Texas
42,000 Texas -> Calif
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Much agreed. It's a daunting and complex problem.
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I know (and ship to) expats in Italy, Mexico, Japan for
example each with new and different blessings and troubles
and foibles.
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For example, as Italy depopulates there are villages which
will sell you a house for a Euro with a contract to live in
it and maintain it for some number of years. Then again
Italy is more socialist than California so not for everyone.
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https://www.housebeautiful.com/design-inspiration/real-estate/g61420190/places-in-italy-to-buy-one-dollar-homes/
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Plus the Italian bureaucracy beats the California paper
mavens hands down. Makes 'Byzantine' look like an
understatement.
good option. In the past, I had considered Israel, Poland, Canada and
Japan (in that order).
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10 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 120 | Frank Krygowski | |
10 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 118 | Frank Krygowski | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 117 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 116 | Frank Krygowski | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 111 | AMuzi | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 110 | Frank Krygowski | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 109 | AMuzi | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 108 | Frank Krygowski | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 105 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 102 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | zen cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 99 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 98 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 43 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 42 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 37 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 36 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 34 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 32 | Zen Cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 31 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 4 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | John B. | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 26 | Zen Cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 25 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 23 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 21 | John B. | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 20 | Frank Krygowski | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 19 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 18 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 17 | zen cycle | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 16 | Jeff Liebermann | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 10 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 9 | Jeff Liebermann | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Jeff Liebermann | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Jeff Liebermann | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 4 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | John B. | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | zen cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Zen Cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 54 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 39 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Frank Krygowski | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 36 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 4 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 31 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 30 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 4 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | zen cycle | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 23 | AMuzi | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 21 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 5 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 3 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | zen cycle | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | zen cycle | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 15 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 10 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | AMuzi | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 6 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 5 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 4 | AMuzi | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | AMuzi | |
25 Sep07:26 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 3 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 14 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi |
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