Re: Extensive article on Rivendell and Grant Petersen

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Sujet : Re: Extensive article on Rivendell and Grant Petersen
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 23. Sep 2024, 04:06:28
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On 9/22/2024 4:20 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 9/22/2024 12:03 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/22/2024 9:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Sep 21 14:10:46 2024 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
Long article on Grant Petersen and Rivendell. Pretty good explanation of
Grant's ideas, I think.
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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it- slow?mc_cid=5c59e2814d&mc_eid=435456b007
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-- - Frank Krygowski
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Grant Peterson is a bicycle afficianado. Ricendell is not a particularly good bike. Not BAD but nothing to write home about. They are heavier than necessary and they have a decent finish.
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Considering Rivendells span many models over some 25 years by many different manufacturers, I'm not sure evaluating Rivendell generally in one sentence is possible.
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THose bikes never did a thing for me, like Surly bikes. I find them just like a boxy 4 door uninspiring sedan.
I'm not a Rivendell rider, and probably never will be. But I have great respect for many of Grant's ideas.
Ideas like: Bicycling should be about much more than always trying to either go faster or "train" (for what?). Like him, I value technological simplicity and versatility. I believe that most of the annual "improvements" that manufacturers dream up and _Buycycling_ magazine promotes are of no significant benefit to the customer/rider but instead help the industry push more stuff out the door. And I like being involved with the bike, and knowing how every bit of it works. That's as opposed to, say, pushing an electrical button and having some incomprehensible system shift my gears for me.
YMMV of course.
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- Frank Krygowski

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