Re: Extensive article on Rivendell and Grant Petersen

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Sujet : Re: Extensive article on Rivendell and Grant Petersen
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 25. Sep 2024, 17:40:18
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On 9/25/2024 10:12 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 25.09.2024 um 16:28 schrieb Frank Krygowski:
On 9/25/2024 9:28 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/25/2024 3:03 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
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Fork mounted braking systems like cantilever did not reach the traditional road-bike market.
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Except specialty machines such as cyclo cross
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https://www.speedbicycles.ch/velo/428/ guerciotti_cross_competition_1981.html
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and time trial bikes with the incredibly light Mafac Jacky brake.
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... and except for almost every bike I own and ride.
 OK, I should have said "penetrate the market" rather than "reach the market".
The "problem" in the past was that road bikes usually had caliper brakes and that for caliper brakes, narrow tires mean better braking performance.
 By moving to V-brakes, disk brakes or similar brakes, you avoid the constraints of the past, enabling wider tires on road bikes.
 
Sidepull and centerpull calipers exist for clearance with many tire widths. This is not news.
 From short:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/agccat.jpg
to quite ample:
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/very-rare-1930s-french-golden-era-handbuilt-randonneur.89680/
Current selection BTW:
https://www.yellowjersey.org/SINGLEPV.JPG
plus these:
https://www.yellowjersey.org/spmxgrey.jpg
Nothing wrong with V brakes or cantilevers, but people do have their preferences and there are tradeoffs so the selection is and has been quite broad.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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