Sujet : Re: Todays rant
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 14. Dec 2024, 03:59:41
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On 12/13/2024 8:41 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 12/13/2024 4:06 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/13/2024 1:15 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
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The vast majority of the mass shootings that target random victims in schools, malls, and theaters aren't committed by people with a violent past, so the argument that 'they never committed violence before' is pretty much irrelevant to the context of this conversation.
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Yes, I realize there have been a number of instances at clubs, bars, and parties where it seems to be related to gang activity. Those aren't' the types of incidents we're discussing.
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Yes I agree. The bulk of 'mass shooting' events are tangential to ongoing criminal activity; at a party, in a bar, drive-by in front of a crowd, etc. Utterly different problem (with different possible resolutions) than a deranged but determined homicidal maniac.
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I can't think of a deterrent/preventive strategy except for maybe public execution and I hesitate to assume even that would dissuade Son of Sam, Nikolas Cruz, Richard Ramirez, Stephen Paddock, Jeffrey Dahmer, or their ilk.
One suggestion might be to look at the social conditions in nations similar to the U.S. but with far fewer killings, especially gun killings, per capita. Emulate what they do.
"‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"
https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only- nation-where-this-r-1848971668/
I do not have a snappy solution.
some context:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1386759/mass-shootings-us-other-developed-world/https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/-- Andrew Muziam@yellowjersey.orgOpen every day since 1 April, 1971