Re: RE: Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.

On 5/13/2024 5:18 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Mon May 13 13:02:24 2024 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:

On Mon, 13 May 2024 19:08:54 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
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Now did everyone get that? A ship bearing 50,000 containers will be thrown off balance by two empty containers returning to their source.

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Containers are counted in TEU (Twenty foot Equivalent Units):
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit>
or FEU's (Forty foot Equivalent Units):
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit#Forty-foot_equivalent_unit>
I suggest you use TEU units when counting containers.
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The Dali is a 10,000 TEU class vessel.  Most containers are now 40 ft
long. The Dali was carrying 4,679 FEU's, which will probably be about
twice that in TEU.
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The largest container ship is the MSC Irina at 24,346 TEU.
<https://scf.com.au/news-articles/largest-shipping-container-ships/>
It will be a long time before we have container vessels that carry
your 50,000 containers.
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You might find this video of interest.
"Why are No Ultra Large Container Vessels Sailing to the United
States"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--l-FWUxxiw>
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Full disclosure:  I posted this as an example of how Tom often
responds.  Instead of addressing the questions and staying on topic,
he selects the most trivial item mentioned, and respond only to that.
So, I delivered a trivial, but interesting reply.
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   Now Lieberman is an expert on containers. I rode out to Pleasanton early this year and sat at a train crossing as 4 locomotives carried about 100 cars slowly past the town.There wasn't ONE 40 foot container but instead every single container was 20 feet long.
 Then Liebermann has to temerity to say that the largest container ship only carries 25,000 40 foor containers which is 50,000 20 foot containers that fit on TRUCKS. A road tractor pulls trailers that are 48 to 53 feet in length so that you can load and unload 20 foot containers easily. Why would you build a 48-53 foot trailer to carry a 40 foot container when you could use a 42 foor trailer? This is because rather than carry 40 foot containers you unpack the container and load the contents into a 53 foot BOX trailer in usually a single stack hieght that is easy to unloadeed via fork lifts.
 Liebermann the expert on containers doesn't seem to know that railroad flatcars are 89 feet long on the bed. That all you have to do to secure the containers is to stake them onto the cars using the built in stack slots on the containers.
 

Depends on what's being hauled.
Some big chunk of freight is delivered in container, for example import subassemblies for manufacturing such as autos.  Other freight is containerized from various shippers by a forwarder.
There are a wide assortment of trailer types for heavy trucks- several styles/sizes of enclosed trailers, container chassis in various lengths*, lowboys for heavy machinery, auto transport trailers and on and on.
https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/for-sale/intermodal-slash-container-chassis-only-semi-trailers/803
*including 20'/40' extendable trailer chasses
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