Re: Riding after heavy manual labor

On 5/31/2024 5:15 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:

AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> writes:
 

On 5/31/2024 3:28 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 5/31/2024 2:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/31/2024 1:21 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 5/31/2024 11:42 AM, AMuzi wrote:

...   I can't think of any well run major city in USA.

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With all due respect: Do you have examples of "well run" cities in
other countries? (Although we should recognize that American
cities must exist within the framework of American laws,
constitution and history.)
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My main point here is that your definition of "well run" may be
overly idealistic. It may be no more realistic than the extreme
left's visions of cities where police are unnecessary, poverty
does not exist, everybody is vegan and rides bicycles... or
whatever.
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I've asked similar questions regarding national policies regarding
taxation, etc. If you can't give examples of countries or cities
that, in your view, do things properly, it may be that your
standards are unrealistic.
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I can't offhand in USA. But the (post Pacific War) exemplar is
Singapore, notably efficient with notably small, even negligible,
amounts of corruption.
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So it is possible for humans. Just not here.

Yeah, singapore....I guess if you're a big proponent of
following rules and conforming to government dictates of
'decency'.....
https://www.businessinsider.com/absurd-laws-of-singapore-2012-6
but hey, I'll bet the trains run on time...

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They do of course and they system is not a filthy mugger's paradise
like CTA and NYC trains:
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xd42CnVyU08/maxresdefault.jpg
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There's no litter or gum on the sidewalks, extremely low crime rate.
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I couldn't live there* but the actual citizens of Singapore
overwhelmingly approve of city administration and have for
decades.
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OTOH corruption, crime and filth combined with high Singapore level
taxes lacks appeal as well:
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https://www.illinoispolicy.org/9-years-of-decline-expect-chicago-to-be-no-4-behind-houston-by-2035/
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*not only a question of liberty. Check out the rents!!
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Singapore

  From https://singaporelegaladvice.com/law-articles/caught-speeding-singapore/
     For serious traffic offences such as exceeding the speed limit by more
    than 40 km/h, offenders will be prosecuted in court. In this situation,
    offenders can be fined up to $1,000 and/or jailed for up to 3 months for
    a first conviction in court.
     These maximum penalties are doubled for repeat offenders. Repeat
    offenders who have been convicted at least 2 times for exceeding the
    speed limit by more than 40 km/h may also face enhanced penalties under
    section 67(A) of the Road Traffic Act.
     In this case, the court may exercise its discretion to sentence a repeat
    offender to up to 3 times the punishment that he would otherwise be
    liable for, subject to a jail term of up to 10 years. On top of that,
    repeat offenders who cause serious injury or death to another person may
    also be caned up to 6 strokes.
 Exceeded the speed limit twice by more than 25 mph?

That sort of traffic law is common to SE Asia, not only Singapore.
Deaths from car crashes rose from 44 to 71 (+58%!) for first six months of 2023 over 2022.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/more-road-traffic-fatalities-first-half-2023-along-rise-number-drink-driving-accidents-3773461
Population of 6 million is roughly the same as Wisconsin where traffic crashes kill about 600 people* per year.
https://www.warshafsky.com/Milwaukee/CarAccident/WisconsinCarAccidentStats
Different cultures. Wisconsin car-deer crashes take out a mere 16,000 deer per year which is obviously not enough.
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