Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure

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Sujet : Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 09. Jun 2024, 03:29:35
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On 6/8/2024 3:26 PM, AMuzi wrote:
Latest boondoggle on North Clark Street Chicago:
 https://chi.streetsblog.org/2024/06/06/raised-expectations-some-curb-protected-bike-lanes-often-flood-could-switching-to-raised-lanes-solve-the-problem
 My daughter sent snapshots much like the above (and a long harangue) taken on the way to work this morning.
 City of Chicago has a compulsion to waste money making cyclists miserable and raising risk for cyclists.
 From that article: "while I write regularly about sustainable transportation infrastructure, water management practices are not in my wheelhouse..."
And that illustrates a very common problem. People who demand special "innovative" bike facilities have little or no appreciation for the inherent complexities. Water drainage might be the least of the problems - although it gets to be real fun when it freezes. Collision hazards, wheel diversion hazards, visibility problems, intersection confusion, crossing conflicts, mixing bikes with pedestrians and more are present with almost all such "protection" schemes, but in the fairy tale world of "complete streets" none of those problems are usually recognized.
Look at the "Rendering of an upcoming raised bike lane" about halfway down that page. Wouldn't it be fun dodging the signposts, the phone-gazing pedestrians, the roller bladers and skaters, the people popping out from building doors or blind corners of buildings, kids and dogs scampering about?
Why, you'd be perfectly safe riding there, because of Ye Magicke Grene Painte!
--
- Frank Krygowski

Date Sujet#  Auteur
8 Jun 24 * Antipersonnel infrastructure28AMuzi
9 Jun 24 +* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure2Frank Krygowski
9 Jun 24 i`- Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure1AMuzi
9 Jun 24 `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure25Catrike Ryder
9 Jun 24  +* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure2Catrike Ryder
9 Jun 24  i`- Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure1AMuzi
9 Jun 24  +* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure17AMuzi
9 Jun 24  i`* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure16Frank Krygowski
9 Jun 24  i `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure15AMuzi
9 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure14Jeff Liebermann
9 Jun 24  i   `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure13AMuzi
10 Jun 24  i    +- Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure1Frank Krygowski
11 Jun 24  i    `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure11Jeff Liebermann
11 Jun 24  i     +- Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure1Jeff Liebermann
12 Jun 24  i     `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure9AMuzi
13 Jun 24  i      `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure8Radey Shouman
13 Jun 24  i       +* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure4zen cycle
13 Jun 24  i       i+- Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure1AMuzi
15 Jun 24  i       i`* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure2Radey Shouman
15 Jun 24  i       i `- Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure1Jeff Liebermann
13 Jun 24  i       `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure3Catrike Ryder
13 Jun 24  i        `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure2AMuzi
13 Jun 24  i         `- Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure1Catrike Ryder
9 Jun 24  `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure5AMuzi
9 Jun 24   `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure4AMuzi
9 Jun 24    `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure3AMuzi
10 Jun 24     `* Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure2Frank Krygowski
10 Jun 24      `- Re: Antipersonnel infrastructure1AMuzi

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