Re: Disc brake maintenance tips

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Sujet : Re: Disc brake maintenance tips
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 26. Jun 2024, 18:46:24
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On 6/26/2024 11:15 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/25/2024 10:46 AM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
>
On 6/24/2024 10:57 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/24/2024 8:44 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 24.06.2024 um 02:40 schrieb AMuzi:
>
In fairness, Mr Forester wrote a very long time ago and assumed
automobile pilots were neither homicidal maniacs nor stoned out of
their minds. This isn't as true now. He also wrote before
walk-around telephones; now every other driver is consumed with
denigrating some kid in a chatroom with his thumbs while wandering
across lane lines...
>
.. and many modern cars, like mine, already ensure they stay in
lane and keep enough distance to the car or bike ahead.
>
By 2040, these kind of safety features will be present in more than
90% of the cars, so it will be meaningful for a cyclist to make
sure the car LIDAR has seen him rather than the car driver...
Does that feature mean a driver cannot move over (slightly out of
lane) to give courteous space when passing a cyclist? I don't know.
>
My car has lane departure warnings (beeps) plus selectable "Lane
Centering Assist." Its camera looks for things like lane lines and
either beeps or gently turns the wheel to try to keep the car centered
in the lane.
>
But the force applied is low, and very easily overcome when I choose
to do so.
>
Also, using the turn indicator (a strange concept for most American
drivers!) disengages both those systems until the maneuver is
complete.
>
Suppose you are driving down a two-lane road, with clear sight lines,
and want to pass a cyclist.  The lane is narrow enough that crossing the
center line is, if not required, at least considerate.  Moving entirely
into the opposite lane is overkill -- not required for a safe and
congenial pass.
>
Do you indicate a turn?  I do not, because it seems more likely to
mislead anyone seeing it than not.
>
On the other hand, your car does its best to get you to either indicate
a turn or simply not cross the center line.  Sure you *can*, but you
have additional incentives not to.
>
I have experienced modern lane-keeping features on rental cars, and
found them bothersome enough that I figured out how to turn them off.
But I suppose that I am an aging Luddite.
 Well described; that was my question exactly and I understand (per you and Mr Mantel) that the robot overlord function is easily overridden. Thanks.
It occurs to me, the alternative technology for "lane keeping" is edge line rumble strips ground into the road surface. Those are detestable on many grounds, and are especially bad for cyclists.
On the whole, I prefer the electronic devices, and hope they will someday supplant the rumble strips.
--
- Frank Krygowski

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